BlackDogs3 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 They are passing or soon will pass a concealed carry law here in Cheeseland. I am not a fan of hand guns, too much aiming. How short can you get a M4 or other Benelli and still be legal? I think I want a Benelli with an extended mag as my cc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomjb Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Someone jump in as I am not right a lot anymore:) As I recall, a shotgun has to have an 18" barrel and an overall length of 26" minimum. Otherwise it is a NFA item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDogs3 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 Can you buy a Benelli that short stock or does it have to be modified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I want a cool concealed carry.I am not a fan of hand guns, too much aiming Is that a joke? Are you trying to be funny? This is not a serious topic. Get off your dads computer. Go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDogs3 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 No the concealed carry law is the sad joke, and I am serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dunne Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 what do you mean its a sad joke? you don't believe in it? I have been carrying in Florida since the law went into effect and have taken several courses and they all agree take out the guy with a shotgun first, rifle second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDogs3 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 You don't live in the land of drunk cheeseheads, and now, the land of drunk and armed cheeseheads. I really don't like hand guns. I'm just looking for an alternative in length and weight for my SBEII. I really do not want to be lugging my SBEII around town. If I can get a M4 short enough, then I could stick it in a back pack or something. I think the M4 is the way to go, I am still researching the collapsable stock issue. Looks like it maybe illegal in the US. I don't think I can shorten an inertia recoil Benelli much due to the recoil tube in the stock. This is not something I really want to do, but how else do you navigate around the armed cheeseheads? Besides, if we are arming citizens, we should be ARMING citizens. Mike - like your tagg, love my dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dunne Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I carry a sig p220r carry elite in an Ugly bald guy holster. Handguns are your friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StrangerDanger Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Learn to like handguns if you're serious about carrying. A handgun is the fastest firearm you can deploy. Fractions of a second count. Having a short shotgun in your backpack is about as slow as you can get. Carry strong side hip, or don't bother carrying at all. Unless you're out hiking or camping. Then you could add a rifle or shotgun and sling it. But in town? Handgun. Roughly 15% of the population of Arizona carry a concealed weapon or open carry. No one carries a rifle or shotgun. There might be one in their truck, but that isn't all that common anymore either. Seek professional training beyond the basic CCW classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crofton Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) 1st of all, I believe this is a bogus question and u are friggin with us! With that in mind, you are talking about a sawed-off shotgun (or short-barreled) of course they are subjected to numerous legal issues. Assume you are planning on wearing a black Trench Coat aka "Men in Black". With 96 post in this forum (didn't check out ur previous posts) one (actually only speaking for 'me') would assume you are smoking locoweed or on the payroll of Mayor Bloomberg. Edited June 25, 2011 by crofton unable to spell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 They are passing or soon will pass a concealed carry law here in Cheeseland. I am not a fan of hand guns, too much aiming. How short can you get a M4 or other Benelli and still be legal? I think I want a Benelli with an extended mag as my cc. Something like 36" or so. That's as short as the C-stock collapses. If you get the SBS version, about 32". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dunne Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 most states only allow you to carry a pistol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 If you chopped a factory M4 barrel down to 10" and added the collapsible stock, the overall package length would be 26" with the stock collapsed. Or, you could go get a legal Keltec shotgun and have 15 rounds with an overall length of 26". It will be a pump though. It won't require a SBS NFA stamp or a ton of cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Scarboni Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 They are passing or soon will pass a concealed carry law here in Cheeseland. I am not a fan of hand guns, too much aiming. How short can you get a M4 or other Benelli and still be legal? I think I want a Benelli with an extended mag as my cc. If you can't be bothered with aiming, you probably should seek more/better training before you decide you are responsible enough to carry a weapon. A shotgun must be skillfully aimed and fired. Your perception of concealed carry is questionable. Have you ever tried to conceal 8lbs of gun on your person? Full size handguns can be difficult to carry and conceal. Add in comfort and convience, you will find a combat shotgun to be lacking in all areas except stopping power. As a general rule, you should choose the largest caliber in the smallest package that you can shoot one handed (in case you are injured). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truckcop Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Troll. Move on. Nothing to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super33 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 I live in Wisconsin, I will certainly be arming myself knowing this guy lives in my state. I like Wisconsin, there's good people here. Not sure what neighborhood this guy is from but it certainly isn't mine. If you think you're gonna do any good with a shotgun in your backpack you're insane. You don't want to take the time to aim a handgun but you're planning on taking the time to remove a shotgun from a backpack.... I'd like to apologize to my fellow forum members for this dumb thread. Not all cheeseheads are like this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Taurus Judge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 (edited) I live in Wisconsin, I will certainly be arming myself knowing this guy lives in my state. I like Wisconsin, there's good people here. Not sure what neighborhood this guy is from but it certainly isn't mine. If you think you're gonna do any good with a shotgun in your backpack you're insane. You don't want to take the time to aim a handgun but you're planning on taking the time to remove a shotgun from a backpack.... I'd like to apologize to my fellow forum members for this dumb thread. Not all cheeseheads are like this guy. Sounds like a false sense of security to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3S24ofEQj4 One never knows... Edited June 26, 2011 by Unobtanium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Dak© Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Ummm, you're not gonna' carry a shotgun for CCW unless it's NFA (end even then it's not practical). My M2 with a 14" bbl and factory PG stock is still 35" long overall. Can't shorten it more without cutting the mag tube (as is, it's 5+1) or hacking the stock off. My Street Sweeper is only 20" total (12" bbl) with the stock folded, but the 12 round cylinder is too wide for CCW. You "might" be OK with one of the super shorties out there (Surbu?) but even they are bulky compared to a handgun. It might seem/feel OK for a little while, but wear one for any amount of time and it'll get old. Do yourself a favor (if this is a serious thread) and get a nice small handgun. I carried a Ruger P90DC .45 for a while, and even it was too big for realistic CCW. Got a nice Kimber ultra crimson carry .45 (3" 1911) and love it. I can wear it all day long and not even know it's there (neither will anyone else). But that's just my opinion.... IF you need spread shot, the Taurus Judge is your best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markhb Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Get yourself one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Get yourself one of these. I would love to fire a 3" slug out of that thing 1-handed just to prove I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Not sure if this thread is serious. Major WTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srqmedic Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I'm sorry, I'm new, and I've given this more than 24 hours of thought. This in my opinion is absolutely ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super33 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Sounds like a false sense of security to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3S24ofEQj4 One never knows... I got a ride from that guy the other day and he was fine... friendly, but fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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