Mesa Tactical
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@ Mesa Tactical, Are you guys going to the Del Mar gun show in Oct?
We haven't been to a gun show since 2005 or so. Quantico Tactical used to sell some of our stuff at Del Mar.
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how do i get one? the sites kind of confusing theres no buy now or shopping cart stuff.
There's no shopping cart. You can buy from one of our dealers (you might save a few bucks) or call us up directly.
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It might be the gimmick that allows them to get around the ARGO system patents.
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There are a couple where the reviewers basically came to the conclusion that the multiple gas port thing is just a gimmick.
Are they saying that about the Benelli M4?
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I'd like to know more about how the riser was hurting your face. And what's a "face saver?"
We're not crazy about the riser aesthetics and were considering a redesign. Also, there's some cool new textures we've been looking at.
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Now that Benelli M4 stocks are available in different colors, it seems to be imperative that Benelli aficionados buy multiple shotguns.
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I just bought a collapsible M4 stock. I bought it because I got a great deal, and because of things I heard about the grip on the Urbino. Like I said, "heard", not "experienced." Has Mesa changed anything with the grip, what was/is the deal?
The Urbino grip sleeves do not match the factory Benelli sleeves exactly, and at first we thought that was a problem. For example, I, personally, prefer the factory grip sleeve. Fortunately, for people who like the factory grip, it can be installed on the Urbino Tactical stock.
But now that the stock is out we have actually received more compliments than complaints about the grip, especially from people with smaller hands. Just yesterday we heard from someone who was concerned the grip might be too big for him, yet it's slightly smaller than the factory grip.
So, as usual, you can't please everyone.
We are still thinking about reworking the grip, but based on the feedback we have received so far, it has become far less of a priority.
That's awesome... would you be the only source for those forends? They make any forends for M1/M2?This bundle is the result of an opportunity we spotted when we saw Freedom Fighter's forends. We envisioned a way to make our coyote stocks (of which we have about 500 in the warehouse) much more attractive. At the moment, we aren't really interested in the forend business per se, but depending on what happens with this bundle that could change.
Is there no bundle available for the stock colors?Not from us, but there might be from Freedom Fighter; they have become a Mesa Tactical dealer and will soon have an inventory of Urbino Tactical stocks for the Benelli M4.
Just my opinion, but it would look better with the PG sleeve and the recoil pad black instead of FDE.That would look cool. We will probably begin selling the grip sleeves separately in a few weeks, so folks can mix and match (and, of course, the black factory Benelli grip sleeve will fit on the Urbino Tactical stock). Black cheek risers are already available separately (SKU #91690).
The Limbsaver butt pads are black in any case:
Good looking kit. I'm not about to pop for a new stock set right now, but it is tempting.Rats!
Full disclosure: when we decided to do this, one of our thoughts was that there would be customers out there would would actually buy multiple furniture sets in different colors! Even if you don't do it, we are betting a few others will!
Here are some SKUs and retail prices:
92730 Urbino Tactical Stock and Forend for Ben M4 (Standard Butt, 12-GA, Coyote) $165.00
92740 Urbino Tactical Stock and Forend for Ben M4 (Riser, Standard Butt, 12-GA, Coyote) $195.00
92750 Urbino Tactical Stock and Forend for Ben M4 (Limbsaver, 12-GA, Coyote) $190.00
92760 Urbino Tactical Stock and Forend for Ben M4 (Riser, Limbsaver, 12-GA, Coyote) $220.00
These will be available from Mesa Tactical in about a week; they should be available through the reseller channel by the middle of July.
OD is definitely on our (Mesa and FFT) minds. We want to see how these do. Since Eiko (below) is a friend and customer of ours, we have also been thinking about pink.
Thanks for your comments and encouragement.
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Mesa Tactical has teamed with local supplier Freedom Fighter Tactical to bundle their US-made forends with Mesa Tactical’s Urbino Tactical stock for the Benelli M4 semi-automatic shotgun. This new product bundle will allow Benelli M4 owners to customize their shotguns with coyote-colored stock and forend “furniture.”
If these do well, the next versions will be OD green.
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In that case why not just design a stock to fit the rod. It already has notches on it for the Benelli tele stock. In fact why not just by the telestock from Benelli ?
The requests are coming down for a hydraulic recoil absorbing stock.
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Thanks for the reply, KB.
I spoke indirectly with an LE armorer who said the nut can be removed with heat. Naturally I want to be careful with that, but I will try a heatgun and see what happens.
The demand for this is coming from law enforcement customers, who are far less worried about 922r.
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Hey folks,
We have been receiving a number of requests for telescoping recoil stock for the Benelli SuperNova patterned after our popular LEO stocks for the Remington and Mossberg platforms. The only way this would be viable is if the stock support rod in the rear of the SuperNova (that simulates a recoil spring tube in a semi-auto) can be easily removed in the field.
I just tried to remove the nut that is at the base of the rod at the receiver and it doesn't seem to want to come loose. I am pretty sure that, as with the magazine tube, this is never meant to be removed in the field; but I was also wondering whether, as with the magazine tube, there is a secret trick to getting it off. Obviously with a plastic shotgun receiver I am reluctant to apply a lot of heat.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to remove this without destroying the weapon?
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It was more meant as a Jab regarding what Mitch from Mesa said about the OEM c-stock. He had complained that the "pointy cheekpeice" on the c-stock was a major source of discomfort due to the forward part of it.
Not me, I don't shoot enough to have any problems, that was the complaint of some of our, how did you put it? "Our men in harm's way." That was it.
Some USMC Lt Colonel was complaining to me about the factory stock's pointy cheekpiece while I attended a combat shotgun training session at Camp Pendleton. I will have to defer to his expertise in the matter.
Now, looking at the way they designed the cheek riser, it seems like he's put out something that directly contradicts his complaint about the c-stock.Since you have never held an Urbino Tactical stock to your face, it's really quite mystifying that you could arrive at such a conclusion.
. . . Unless, after canceling your order with us, you secretly ordered one through one of our dealers? This is the only way you could possibly be making an informed statement about the relative comfort of the Urbino Tactical stock cheekpiece vs the factory Benelli cheekpiece.
I think we should be told.
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They left the factory type rear sling mount. Something a little larger that would take an HK-style snap hook would be my preference so the sling drops down and doesn't bunch at my cheek. Will give me something to work on.
Something like this?
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Any plans for a collapsible version?
Please refer to our Essay about collapsing stocks for Benelli shotguns for our position on collapsing stocks for the Benelli M4.
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I'm sorry we are late, but on the bright side we just cut the pricing in half.
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Are you one of those individuals that hates paying $70 for a $5 chunk of aluminum?? If so then ask for $5 worth of aluminum MINUS the machine costs, skilled CNC operator's pay, programming time, R & D recooperation, complex hard coat anodizing handling fees, packaging and shipping clerk's wages, shipping and receiving's time, advertizing/promotion expenses, Midaway's cut, deburring, the QC manager's wages to screen every single facet of each component, capitol gains tax, and a little on top to furnish insurance for little Suzie's braces and Junior's new glove.
Is this too big to include as a sig quote?
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Why not produce a whole collapsing stock setup that has a better everything for the M4?
We might do that later. In the meantime, the US military already has thousands of these stocks and may be more interested in a relatively inexpensive upgrade to make their optics more usable than a completely new (and not inexpensive) buttstock.
A "whole collapsing stock" requires the development of a pistol grip assembly and buttstock assembly (including thumb latch) in addition to a cheek riser.
Working Xcaliber prototypes are now making the rounds of US military test facilities in the South, and soon we hope to have enough field input to go into production with them.
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We finally went out and got this design prototyped after thinking about it for a couple years.
We are about to send it around the military testing circuit to gauge reactions. If reactions are favorable and it doesn't cost a fortune to tool up for it, you might see these available in about six or nine months.
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Outside of peace officer exemptions, it is illegal to purchase, or receive (i.e. own) an M4 with both a pistol grip and skeletonized stock in CA.
The law doesn't mention skeltonized stocks, it mentions telescoping stocks. We have a skeltonized stock M4 and since the stock doesn't fold or telescope, it is perfectly legal.
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Caligvla, did you mean that installing a collapsible stock is not legal in CA? I don't recall any laws on vertical foregrips. This would be interesting for me to learn.
I think Caligvla is confusing shotguns with rifles.
With regard to shotguns, the following are prohibited in California as assault weapons:
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
That's it. Nothing about vertical grips (which are indeed prohibited on semi-auto centerfire rifles with detachable magazines) unless he has a telescoping stock, which would be illegal anyway with the pistol grip.
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makes one wonder how mossberg manages to sell their turkey guns that come with the knoxx stock???
Mossbergs are not imported.
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Blue loctite to the screws and the proper torque, along with a periodic inspection and check of torque is the solution.
This is my assessment as well.
Properly torqued fasteners should not come off.
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If the citation to the ATF restriction by Benelli is correct, the simple solution to the problem would appear to be for Benelli to manufacture or license the manufacture of the collapsible stock in the U.S. The stocks would no longer be imported and would be built to Benelli standards. With the current exchange rate, it would probably be less expensive to manufacture the components here anyway.
The 922® law under which the stock is banned has nothing to do with where the stock is made, it's the status of the shotgun platform itself as an "imported" firearm. 922® details the parts that can be swapped out for US-made parts that would allow the weapon to be considered of domestic manufacture, but the simple addition of a US-made stock would not be enough.
is there a side saddle for a Benelli M4 collapsible stock?
in Benelli
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You've never heard of the California Assault Weapon law?
http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regagunfaqs#1