No F-Bdy Bs
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I think that so many shooters get hung up on "MUST HAVE PISTOL GRIP!, OMG, its a Tacticool Shotgun!!"
Without ever having taken one single tactical shotgun course, or shooting in a 3-gun match.
A PG stock feels GREAT!,,,,,,,,,,,,,in your living room.
Though, look at the worlds top 3-gun and tactical shooters.
Nearly all of them run field stocks, and there is a reason for that.
A PG stock was invented for one purpose. To keep your shotgun aimed in the threat direction while you used you other hand for something else, like opening a door. Thats it. It evolved into turkey guns. Unless you are a door-kicker(which your most likely are not) a PG stock will probably slow you down.
Dont think that a field stock takes anything away from your tactical shotgun. Im not saying its the best for everyone, but at least give a field stock a try.
No, not shooting beer cans in your buddies pasture, but in a real shotgun class. Give yourself and your gun a real workout with both configurations, and I bet that you will be running back to a field stock.
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Anyone swapped out the Ghost Ring setup on your M4?
While great if im shooting slugs at 100yds, its a really slow setup for 3-gun shooting.
Id like to change it out for something as simple as a fiber stick, or perhaps, a XS setup.
Anyone else done this??
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Want to trade?
Lol, you dont want to pay what Id ask.
The last 2 I saw go went like this.
Guy traded even up, his collapsable Tele-stock, for the field one
the other sold his for $400.
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Good luck finding a source for a field stock. 3-gunners sucked the supply dry about 2 years ago, and from what I understand, they are no longer being made.
I got mine about 2 years ago from Acmesports.com. However, they seem to have gone belly up.
You will have a better chance finding a Tele-stock for $100.
The standard PG stocks are dime a dozen. People always think that PG stocks are the way to go, until you actually use them in real world shooting. Look at the worlds top 3-gunners, nearly all field stocks.
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I am not Knocking your gun but I would think that part that makes this gun worth 1400.00 used is the collapsible stock.
I bought my M4 NIB, with PG stock for 1450.00.
I know they hold there value but
Sorry if this offends you, Not my intent, I am just Curious.
Newgunner.
You are quite right, sir. I copied and pasted the ad from when I was selling my other M4.........
3 years ago.
Anyhow, thanks, price has been updated to $1200
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EDIT: Price update, sorry for the confusion.
I have a very nice Benelli M4 with the M4 LE markings that I am wanting to sell or trade. .
My benelli has about 700rds through it, and has a small scuff marks, but nothing that wont wipe off. I have used it in a few local 3-gun matches. It has the full length mag tube, the field stock, and a Gear Sector sling.Also has the factory Benelli choke system, and comes with a Modified choke. It originally came with the factory collapsable PG stock, but I have since sold it. I repeat, it does NOT come with the collapsable stock, but will accept one. I have all the factory literature and the Benelli box it came in.
As far as trade, I am looking for a Benelli M2, and a m2 ONLY!
I am looking for one with a 21in BBL, perferably the field model, with the comforttech stock.
I would like $1200, or your M2 and $200 for my M4 in trade.
The only reason I am selling this gun is to fund an M2. I just need something that is more of a 3-gun shotgun, that I can also use for hunting.
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I'm interested in the Dave's Metal Works 7 shot magazine extension for my M2 Tactical, but was wondering if it includes the mag tube spring? I emailed Dave, but have not received a reply. The website makes no mention of a spring being included, unlike SRM, Tac-Star and Nordic which all three have the longer spring in the picture.
Also, can anyone chime in on the pros and cons of the mag extensions from the different manufacturers? Thanks.
It does include a longer spring.
However, bear in mind, that your the M4 only uses 1 spring, regardless of mag tube length.
That in mind, the spring that is currently in your M4 will work fine with the extension.
I have been running the stock spring with my DMW tube and it cycles fine.
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I cant see a need for anything past the factory setup.
Actually, id be content with a bead.
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Seems like a lot of money. I remember paying about $1500 for mine.
Does the collapsable stock make it that much higher?
The price is fair.
There are people that have sold just the stock and have nearly paid for the entire gun invenstment. A M4 with a col stock is one of the hottest guns on the planet right now.
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What would you like to see for the M4 that would assist in getting your M4 in the good with 922r??
I was one of the lucky few to grow up with a father that owned 2 machine shops,also, my father is a very skilled, old school, Tool & Die maker. He has since retired, and sold both of his shops. However, we have a 1800sq ft shop between us. It is set up with the usual. Mills, grinders, lathes, ect, and all the support equp to back them up.
I have moderate skill as regards to the trade, but ZERO creative sense.
Between the both of us, we stay pretty busy with all our personal projects. Firearms, tractors, quads, cars, ect.
However, I feel like I need to "contribute". I would really like to put out something that, while simple, could really help my friends here. Something relatively small, and simple to produce.
also, a few extra $$ never hurts.
What would you most like to see invented for your M4?? Mag follower? Something inside the trigger group??
Bear in mind that we dont have mass production, nor any CAD equip.
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Gentlemen:
I have an M4 (1107) I bought second hand – just barely second hand. The original Owner bough it with a factory installed solid synthetic one-piece PG butt stock. He bought a genuine Benelli M4 straight stock (field stock) and swapped the PG out for it. Well, times are tough here in NV and so 4 months and only 60 rounds later, he had to sell it. I was the lucky recipient. I swapped back to the factory original one piece synth. PG butt stock.
I sold the straight stock on Gunbroker and the guy who bought it for his M4 says it does not fit his gun and suggested that I sent him an M3 stock by mistake. From the pictures he sent me, my straight stock does not seem to clear the hex nut at the back of his receiver. He says his gun originally had a straight stock and he put the collapsible unit on it. I can only assume he got rid of this original stock and for some reason now wants to go back to the original config.
Now – thanx for reading all that – and we are almost to my stupid question. In my investigation of this I have become baffled. I pulled off my PG butt stock today and I’ll be damned if I can figure on how it actually attaches. I ran my pinkie finger into the stock and cannot find any evidence of threads by which this thing would attach to the recoil tube. So, how does the stock actually attach to the recoil tube???
On and off is easy – after pulling the trigger assembly out, turn the stock to the left and it unscrews in about 4-5, 360 degree rotations. It slides of the recoil tube.
To go back on, I slid it up the recoil tube, with about 3/16th of an inch left to go to the receiver, it stops. I start spinning it clockwise (right), something in there grabs, about 4-5 turns later it is home, the last 1/4 turn is a *****, if you really muscle it you can go about 1/16 of an inch past bottom dead center for the PG to be in line with the trigger guard. I did that today so I just tapped it back (to the left) with my fist on the PG until the alignment is perfect. I drop in the trigger pack and that keeps the stock from turning out.
HONESTLY, What the heck is actually holding this thing on??? And can anyone explain why the field stock I sold does not fit the gun that belongs to the gentleman who bought it. He claims his gun is the M4 (1107) – same designation as mine.
I know I'm a newbie and this will probably get slammed, but some technical knowhow is appreciated.
Fault Zone
LOL, I just responded to the other post.
It really has me stumped as I have replaced 2 col stocks with field stocks on M4s.
I cant imagine what the problem is.
If he was able to remove one stock, putthing the other on should not have been an issue.
Not sure where else to go with this one.
Obviously, it IS a M4 field stock, but ALL M4s, regardless of model, should be able to accept the field stock.
Righty tighty, lefty loosey?
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I just purchased a supposed m4 benelli field stock. I say supposed only becuase it will not fit onto my m4.
To note, it was a take off from another benelli m4. Both shotguns were the 11017 models. It seems like the hex nut on the back of the reciever will not fit inside the hole in the stock. (the stock slides on until it meets the hex)
Additionally, I am used to the stock (collapsable) screwing on to the threads at the base of the recoil can near the reciever. The stock I recieved has no threads in the neck of the stock that would screw onto the reciever.
The seller swears that he unscrewed it from his M4 and droppedit in the mail. I believe that he believes that is the case.
Any help or advice would be appreciated
Anthony
I dont know what to tell you.
Instaling the field stock is the exact opposite of removal of the other stock.
If it does not go on that easy, id be willing to bet that its is NOT a M4 stock.
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Interested in an out-right sale?
Perhaps, at this point im only willing to do a FTF deal. Maybe in a week, if I havent located a trade+cash deal, Ill consider an outright sale and ship to your FFL.
For now, I really want to locate a M2 before I let this one go, as its my main 3-gun shotgun, and I am NOT going back to a pump in the meantime.
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I have 2 M4s, which is 1 more than I need.
I am looking for something that is a tad more 3-gun friendly and I would like to trade this one for a M2 field. Preferably with the 21in BBL and as few mods as possible. would like one with the 21in bbl, but will consider an 18in model if the deal is right. Sight configuration is not important.
Here is my M4. It is a 11707 model. It has the Benelli supplied Modified Choke and a Daves Metal works full length tube.It also includes a Gear Sector Sling.
It has about 500 rounds through it, and has been used in a few local 3-gun matches. It has a few slight rub marks, but overall, the gun is perfect. As you might imagine, it runs flawless and has eaten everything I have fed it.
Other than the mag tube, the gun is totally stock. I have all the original Benelli booklets and info that came with it.
As to the trade, I would like to trade my M4 for your M2 and $600, OBO.
I will ship Fedex Express overnight at my cost.
I dont need any other trades, dont bother. I need a M2 and some cash.
Ill be glad to do a FTF and travel up to 100mi.
I am located in Shreveport, La.
If you want a picture of a specific part, just let me know.
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M4,field stock,w/24in BBL and 9+1+1 Capicity FTW!
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I know my M4 is spooky accurate at 100yds with slugs.
Mine came with the modified choke, and I have used it crow hunting a few times, it does as well as any shotgun I have used for this.
It would be as good as any semi for hunting, pending you have the model which can swap chokes.
Though, im not much of a hunter anymore and this is the only experience I have hunting w/mine.
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Has anyone here ever had a factory new, never shot M4 stock come out of the box loose? I just noticed that mine was off center from the trigger guard, so I twisted it back the other way. I can move it from side to side by just tapping the pistol grip with a moderate amount of force. Surely this is not normal. Is it simply a matter of some minor adjustment, or are there other parts inside the stock/receiver that may have a problem?
-Chris
Its no big deal.
here is how you fix it:
Turn the stock clockwise.
Seriously though, its not that big of a deal. My 11707 came like that. 4 seconds later, I fixed it.
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Hello this is Dave From Dave's Metal Works, I'm Sorry to hear that your product didn't Thread properly. All of our products carry a lifetime warranty so if you would like to E-mail me at [email protected] we can issue a return, Credit, or exchange. The nuts and tubes are made of aircraft grade 6061 aluminum, and are hard anodized. We do our best to check every tube and nut before it goes out to make sure everything works. It is completely my fault but I am only human so sometimes things get by me. So if you would like to try another nut or want a refund shoot me an e-mail.
-Dave
Complete BS by the OP for NOT trying to contact you first. BUT taking the time to make pictures, and post them up on the internet. In the time that took, he could have contacted you, and had the issue resolved.
For the record, I have 2 of your products, and they are flawless. As the son of a machine shop owner, I can attest, that sometimes, **** happens. If the MFG (you) are willing to make it good, I cant see a reason to *****.
Some people live a sheltered life, and the first little speedbump they come across causes them a ton of grief.
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I am a proud owner of a black M4 11707 model.
The current accessories I have for my gun are:
1) Socomguys 7 round extended tube
2) Cleefurds upgraded spring
3) Blackhawk standard M16 sling
4) front and rear trituim iron nightsights
5) OEM Benelli standard stock (I can switch back and forth between the standard and pistol grip stocks)
I am planning to get the GG&G upgraded, oversized charging handle which I see retailing for like $25, along with an upgraded, oversized release button, and maybe reclocate the rear sling mounting point more forwards towards the receiver.
Do you guys have any suggestions about these parts?
or recommend other accessories I can add to make this gun an effective fighting gun w/o going too overboard?
DMW extended tube, run the stock spring.
Field stock
sight inserts
Gear Sector sling.
No funky rails, lasers, red dots, ect. KISS
Here is my M4
at the last 3-gun match
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M2 is a little lighter, tracks better. I can get it in a 21in length. Recoil system is less complicated.I know what 3-Gun is, but what would make one shotgun better for 3-Gun but not for self defense or vice-versa? Only thing I can think of is maybe if you want to put a light on the M4 for self defense?Also, the M4s ghost sights arent exactly fast for 3-gun work.
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This should be interesting, as I've never owned an M2. I do have an M1.... like my M4 better. M2 must be something special if your considering it over the M4 for your intended use.
Dont get me wrong, I dont think that the m2 is a "better" gun.
But it is a bit lighter, and I can pick one up in 21in length, which would be better for shoots.
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what do you mean by "3-gun shotgun"?
3-gun is competition shooting which incoperated 3 different firearms.
Pistol
Rifle
Shotgun
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I have owned a M1, and M2 in the past. Both were perfect guns.
I now have 2 M4s.
One is a EVIL 11707 SBS with the tele-stock, the other, is a 11707, but I replaced the tele-stock with a field stock and use it as my 3-gun shotgun.
I have been considering selling the M4, and picking up another M2. Mostly for 3-gun work.
FOr what I do with it, I figure I would be better off with the M2. Id want to get a 21in model with a field stock.
Also, I figure I can get about $1500 for my M4 like it sits, and can probably pick up an M2 for about $1200.
Though, the M4 will probably only go up in value.
I wont use either for HD, and I have always liked the extra simplicity of the M2.
Dont get me wrong, NEITHER of my M4s have EVER choked, not one single time. I just consider the M4 more of a "combat" shotgun, and the M2 more of a 3-gun shotgun.
Thoughts? Stay with the M4, or go back to the m2.
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I originally ordered a steel tube from Daves but then took a look at, then purchased, the titanium tube offered on GunBroker.
Titanium is MUCH more expensive than the various grades of steel used to make tubes.
$200 for a titanium tube versus $200 for a steel tube - that's a no-brainer.
Getting corrosion inside a poorly finished steel magazine tube, not good.
The titanium tube is a beautiful piece of machinist's art. You pay over a thousand dollars for a gun then put a cheap magazine tube on it? That makes no sense.
If you can't afford the difference in price then you can't afford to shoot it much anyway.
Money is NOT the issue. Its common sense. If you can tell me one single thing that a Titanium tube does better than an alum one on an M4, id like to hear it. Its not a wear item,its not under stress and its not a moving part. All it has to do is contain the shells, and not corode. Thats it.
However, feel free to pay $200 for what I paid $60 for. The economy can use all the help you can give it.
Benelli has a supply of 21in M2 fields avalible.
in Benelli
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I know a few people have been looking for a M2 field.
I sold one of my M4s this week, and decided to pick up a M2 to replace it with.
Got my FFL guy (a benelli dealer) to order me one, and he said that there are about 20 avalible.
Just a FYI