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Unobtanium

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  1. I love how soft they shoot. This is with full power Winchester Ranger 00 9 pellet 1325fps buck.
  2. The Benelli m4 works with laser, eotech, wml, etc under nods. Try that with an m2. Its finicky. The m4? She just runs. During testing at Aberdeen, the gun proved to cycle full power ammo for over 20k rounds without any breakages or part replacements. That test Mossberg keeps crowing about with ther 590a1? Its a 3000 round test of same. The benelli m4 barrel is heavier. Why? To keep it from being dented on door frames, MRAP doors, whatever. Its an absolute tank of a shotgun. Battlefield Las Vegas says its one of their most durable pieces. They ran their m4 entry on the line constantly for 5 years before the first breakage (a piston...swap in and go. Easy.) The guns at BFLV are constantly in use, if you're familiar with the operation. 5 years is insane life span there.
  3. Sounds good in theory, but breeching rounds along with technique often keep the weapon from cycling. You can observe multiple failures to cycle in this video of USMC door breaching fam fire/training course: Noone I know carried a Benelli M4 to breach doors. I do know one guy who did kill someone with a Benelli M4 in Afghanistan, though. He said it worked very well for that. Most people I know who had experience with them were quite pleased with them. They just weren't breaching doors with them. *Look at those beautiful blue receivers at 1:46, too! Benelli has always had ano dye variance.
  4. The Benelli M4 is more versatile. It suffers in weight to bring you lights, optics, lasers, and other items of compatibility without sacrificing reliability.
  5. Shortening the barrel will increase the reliability of the benelli ID system due to weight reduction.
  6. No, it kindof sucks for that. Doors are best done with a pistol grip type gauge like this: Breach the door, roll out of the stack, sling the gauge (no live round in the chamber is one very dominant school of thought here, because shotguns are not drop safe, and when sling, those safeties often will get toggled on gear, and so forth, so no live round. Pop the lock, do not cycle, roll out of the way, sling the gun, roll back in with the rest of the stack.) The Benelli M4 for obvious reasons is a horrible choice for a dedicated breacher. It's heavy, takes up space, is semi-auto, etc. What the M4 was intended to be, is a "combat shotgun". A close quarters tool for dominance. The issue was that it was a product of the 1990's. During the 90's, Haiti, Bosnia, Kosovo were all on the radar. These were not really full blown, but they were "hot spots". They were places US troops deployed as a show of force and to help keep things level. Basically "guard duty". Shotguns look tough. They have a big bore. People know big things come from big barrels. Even a 5 year old can intuit this. Shotguns are excellent at dealing with cars, or taking down very dedicated attackers. This is why the Benelli M4 is most prolifically used by MP's currently. This is also why the US Navy is all about shotguns for ship use. This is why they are used to guard nuclear munitions. Close quarters dominance. So the marines wanted something to replace their pump guns that was more "combat effective". They wanted a beast of a semi-auto. And they got it. And just as soon as they got it, they got sent to a place where you may be shooting someone in the hall one minute, and in the next minute you may be shooting someone at 300m who is popping shots at you from behind a rock or down an alley. The shotgun is not much awesome for this. So the Benelli M4 largely became a support weapon, or a guard/MP weapon. Of course, the M4 was the USMC combat shotgun so of COURSE it became stoopid popular among civilians. It was featured in games. People bought them. They were super cool. I remember seeing one at the gun store when I was in highschool. Such a beast! Then I got older and could afford one. I bought my first one in 2008, I believe it was. I remember a few things specifically. One, driving out to my Dad's place with college friend and blasting stuff with it. Two, trying to put a red dot and a light on it for killing coyotes. Blasting plates with slugs at range was by far the more effective use. By this time people had done some time in Iraq, and were returning home. People like Kyle Lamb and others were starting to train civilians like myself. It quickly became apparent t hat you needed a light on the gun. An optic was also a HUGE help. The solutions for the Benelli M4 were...lacking, to put it nicely. Basically it became a pure toy, while my 5.56 carbines were my go-to tools for dealing with anything. I sold my Benelli. I then bought another because it was so COOL! Sold it. Then a few things like the AVA mount and Surefire rail and all that became "a thing". Kip made a rail for the gun that wouldn't shred mounts, etc. I tried it again. Jeez it was heavy, but it did kindof work. SO much wasted material setting it up, though. Clunkly. LED lights were kindof "meh" and no real good mount solutions for the violence of a shotgun presented. The Surefire M600C was pretty legit, as were Malkoff drop-ins. Anyway, it just wasn't...cohesive. Ergonomics for all this stuff were horrible. I sold again. FINALLY in the late 20-teens we began getting some kit that REALLY turned the Benelli M4 into something day/night ergonomically and functionally useful. I bought back in in 2017 with an SBS and haven't looked back. The platform has finally matured, and it slowly replaces my 5.56 carbines for most things. Militarily? The carbine is where it's at. We have 20+ years of war with it, and it works under a broad range of circumstances very well. It's been pretty much perfected. That said, my uses are more narrow, as I am not taking it to "war". The benelli M4 has also found a home with LAPD, and other LE agencies. That said, as troops returned home, and training and skills demanded became "more inclusive", the heavier recoiling 12ga quickly fell out if favor with many departments. Coupled with the liability if multiple projectiles, and the advent of "TAP" and other ballistic tip type 5.56 ammunition that risk management loves, along with low recoil, and it has been a slam dunk relegating the gauge to less and less users every admin change.
  7. I've found the M4 to be extremely robust and reliable. The manual of arms may be different, but it is also very good for its intended purpose.
  8. The m4 is a combat shotgun. If you want a competition gun, the m2 and 1301 are currently the two to beat.
  9. The benelli m4 is more geared toward combat type things. Benelli makes a 3g focused weapon if one wants that.
  10. Its a poor choice for 3G in my opinion.
  11. The plastic handguards are fine. You install the barrel tang, then you put the fronts HGs under the front retaining, nosing them in simultaneously at an angle and then bringing them parallel to barrel, then grip them together at the rear and insert the barrel fully. Ever take an OG m16s HG off? Much more of a pain. Also...why would you remove them under duress? There is literally nothing to address under there that is field fixable unless you want to hotswap a piston, which isnt something troops carry at the individual soldier level I'd wager. You don't reload it like a 3gun. You keep the gun and your eyes up. It wasn't made to be rolled inboard and quad loaded. You can do this, yes, but its not the design intent or the best practice on a 2 way range. Admin full unload is cumbersome, but select slug drills are super slick, as are making safe to climb/cross etc by just ejecting and pocketing the round in the chamber, then putting it back in later. The bolt release was what the military asked for. I agree its not optimal and Ive changed mine. Your issue with the detent is unsat. I agree fully. Ive seen lots of 590a1 like this, but sad to see m1014. Canted FS is unsat as well, and sadly common across many brands of gauge. Ive sent one back for it, as well. Out of 12 or so, Ive had one that was unsat.
  12. So...does anyone have a picture of the TREX bar on the IWC? I'm curious how that stacks, visually.
  13. 100% as it should be.
  14. This is fine. I have never seen them align on any of mine. I do not understand their purpose to be honest, given this.
  15. This is actually a very good conventional round. It's just at home in a pump gun mostly. Mine patterns very well, recoil is very very soft as I'm sure you've noted. It's not flite control good, but it also kicks even less than FC.
  16. This ammunition is, as you discovered, just on the ragged edge of function. I have a case of it and have tested it, as well. It is NOT indicative of typical 9 pellet 00B at 1250fps in the least. This is a special case situation where the numbers on the box do not add up to the expected results. A better solution for you is Federal LE132 00 or Federal LE133 00.
  17. There is a lot of missing context, but they are threatening to assassinate his character in a certain community. *Wants to know more*
  18. Not to encroach on this thread, but does anyone have a Ming vase for sale? *the fft rail works well.
  19. The reason you must replace 4 parts instead of 3, is because the buttstock and PG are being counted as 2 parts instead of 1, as they are physically 2 parts, meaning you need more US made parts to fall under the correct amount of parts. This is specifically spelled out in 922r, describing each as a separate part. With a fixed PG stock, the PG and buttstock are physically one part, and count as 1 part. Functionality/mobility of the C-stock does not matter regarding this aspect as you can see for obvious reason.
  20. Well, if SD will undertake the project, I trust him more than Benelli. To whit, he isn't the one who built your shotgun wrong already... SD has the tools, facility, knowledge, experience, and passion to do this correctly.
  21. Yes, this is crooked. No, this is not normal or correct. No, I doubt it affects the use of the weapon functionally. Yes, I am sad to see this. I would advise that you send it to Stranger Danger and let him handle it, potentially using one of RX Arms recoil tubes, if indeed it bothers you enough to deal with it.
  22. It is not normal. Pic please?
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