BigwhiteZ
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Still scratching a few out. Tons of birds in our area, but that doesn't mean they want to work. Closes this Sunday...
Great Pictures!!!!!
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The Black Widow. 3" Kent 1 1/4oz #4 fast steel:confused: w/ factory modified. 8 shots. closest shot 5 yds, furthest was 50.
The outdated stuff still works.... if you hit what your aiming at....
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I have friends that were stuck with 3.5" shells. Until this year, they listened to me and killed just as many ducks and geese at the same distances as with 3.5"s, and had to shoot no more cripples than before.
3.5's shoot the same velocities as the 3" shells, the only difference is a few more pellets, and a lot more recoil. Though you may get two or three more pellets on target, the penetration is the same. Its simple physics.
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Who's talking about winging birds and letting them die slowly somewhere? I don't take questionable shots where I think I might just "scratch" one. Not saying some guys don't, but those are the same guys that would do it whether they were shooting a 3" or 3.5". The length of the shell doesn't dictate whether a person is irresponsible or not. Fact is, a 3.5" shell has more space, which equals more payload, powder, etc. Granted, different manufacturers vary whether they put more powder, more pellets, or a mix of both into the shell, but the bottom line is that it is MORE. Better range, more pellets in the pattern, or a happy median..... whichever it is, I don't see the downfall.....
Excellent Points made.....
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When I got in to Duck hunting a few years ago I did some research before trying loads. Wanted to narrow it down a bit. Delta waterfowl tested 500 non-toxic rounds. I don't have the link any more and lost my printout, but the level 3 shells were tested from 37 - 50 yds. This isn't my opinion, this was from the over-all results that I recall..... Overall 3" shells dominated, and #3's, #4's, and #6's were the best performers, and Kent loads held the lead. Some of it had to do with their Tungsten Matrix loads, but Tungsten wasn't all that dominated.
Macks Prairiewings and Simmons Sporting goods and Rogers Sporting goods have excellent prices on waterfowl loads, 3" shells and 3.5's.
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Original Patternmaster Long range!
Factory Modified over decoys.
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Regarding black finish on Vinci, I'm shocked (paying >$1,000 for a gun that immediately shows wear) at how much minor 'wear' shows. Just carrying the gun hunting (with sling) with metal rubbing on clothes, there are permanent (?) wear marks, grayish, like written on with a pencil. I've been using a black Winchester 1300 for 15 years--it looks fine--black.
I keep the gun well protected with synthetic oil, but any insight on maintenance issues is appreciated.
Since my previous post I have discovered the same. Bowhunter82 has a very valid point. The permanent wear marks are bare metal. Not only does it show wear easily, but it will also rust very easily. I also have an old winchester 1300 now for 26 years, and a stevens .410 for 28 years that I have never had this problem with.
Since I had already bought the black, I did some research on painting my barrel. I took it off, pulled out the guts, stripped it of all oils (with a chemical that almost takes of its current coat) and debris, and taped off on the inside to keep overspray from getting in. Then I lightly sanded and primed with an automotive primer (3 coats) allowing to completely dry between each. Then I put three coats of flat (high heat) black, and three coats of a matte finish (also allowing to dry in the sunlight completely between coats). The matte brought it back to the look of when I purchased. This is very inexpensive (about $15) compared to having it dipped (quoted $200), offers a very durable finish, and is easy to do again if needed later down the road.
This is a lesser expensive option if you have already purchased black.
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I had posted some links that detail a correct way to paint your gun barrels also. They are doing the whole approval thing with those links for SPAM checking and havn't posted it.
As long as they are stripped, primed, painted, and sealed with a good sealer they work great. I used 3 coats of automotive primer, 3 coats of flat black (rubbing with fine steel wool between all but the last coat), and 3 coats of a matte sealer. If the gun is black you can just go back with a flat black color and seal with a flat or matte clear coat.
There are several places but since they havn't posted the links for it you can google it. One is a sniper forum and another is a duck hunting forum.
This is a bit less expensive than dipping, although dipping is the optimal choice. It will be a much better coating than the factory stuff on the black guns.
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has anyone had problems with the blueing on the SBE2? i just bought mine this past spring and it is already junk! rest the gun against the boat rail once for early goose and scratched it to the metal. left it out in the truck over night last night and the barrel is completely covered in rust even though i oil the gun after every use!!! does anyone know how to get a hold of benelli i would really like to let them know how i feel!?
Another option is to strip the barrel down completely and degrease. Of course you have to tape off everything you don't want painted. You can prime with an automotive primer; use about 3 coats (rub lightly with a fine steel wool pad between primer coats to smooth). Then paint with a high heat flat black, and seal with a matte or flat clear coat(about 3 coats also). Make sure that each coat is completely dry or you will have the runs, and I heat the barrel pretty warm with a hair dryer and paint out in the sunlight. If you take your time and do it right, its a pretty tough finish, and considerably less expensive.
You may not be interested in this at all, but if so there are several places on the internet that gives good instructions on how to do it correctly. The following are just a few.
www.shtfblog.com/how-to-paint-your-rifle-digital-camouflage/
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1469570
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1469570
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Well as a firearms instructor for Corrections Canada, I call tell you that's not how we do things when teaching proper shooting technics and nor does the RCMP. Then again, we shoot at human paper targets with 00 Buck Shot. Closing your eyes after picking your traget and shouldering and being on target is in a perfect world which is not how we base our fitting and shooting. Even if your gun fits you perfectly, I don't believe for one minute that you will be on target every time by closing your eyes and aiming. I can't speak for Ducks Unlimited Instructors which I never knew even existed. Had no idea they had instructors.
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It is what some recommend for finding a gun that fits, and it does work I might add. I didnt say anything about hunting that way, that would ridiculous, nor did I say that EVERYONE does it that way, or should do it that way.
It happens that my best friend retired as a major from the state and was a firearms instructor for the state as well as the NRA, he concurs with the age old truth about a gun should fit, and when your looking that this is a quick way to test it.
Ducks unlimited post articles in their magazine and on their website a
bout things that make you a better shooter. They are informative, and some of the info is helpful, some is not. You probably wouldn't benefit though, lol.
Maybe someone else would though.
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I don't think a Speed Bead will hold up for me too well in the blind...
I couldn't agree more. We are very hard on our guns!
I use the starbright by truglo (smallest they make) on both of mine, but its only for turkey hunting. I wingshoot with no bead or sights. A lot of shotgun instructors make students remove all sights from their guns (Ducks Unlimited).
You should be able to pick a spot, close your eyes and shoulder. If your gun really fits, it will be on target when you open your eyes.
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Hello, I looking for a BENELLI SUPER BLACK EAGLE 1.
PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU HAVE ONE FOR SALE.
DON K.
The last time I was in this place they had one.
[h=1]McGraw Mercantile & Pawn[/h](601) 856-8885
134 Weisenberger Rd, Madison, MS 39110
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Which patternmaster choke do you use? I've heard good things about them as well. Also, what type of gun are you using it with?
I use the Long range patternmaster. They are not constricted so the long range is for 3" and extended are for 3.5" shells (at least this is what their website says). These are meant to stop the wad when it is flush with the end of the tube. I only shoot 3" shells for ducks and geese so I shoot the Long range tube on both my 11-87 and Vinci. I shot skeet with it last weekend, and we have killed ducks-consistantly- at greater distances than a lot of guys would even believe.
I was so blown away by its performance with all types of loads that I had the new one in the mail box the day I picked up my vinci.
You may hate them, as all guns perform differently, but you do have 30 days to return them.
You can shoot steel, lead, hevi shot, buck shot, tungsten, bismuth, any thing EXCEPT, loads faster than 1550fps, and loads with flight control wads such as Black cloud, and I would check before shooting the new winchester blind side.
We have patterned them with a Citori, BPS, 11-87, Vinci, Beretta Silver Pigeon, Supernova, and SX3; they all throw a wicked pattern.
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Patternmaster! Patternmaster! Patternmaster. After shooting Kicks, Carlson, Crio, it will be only tube I ever buy again! The patternmaster doesn't choke your shot, it simply allows the shot to leave the barrel undisturbed by the wad or gases.
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I shot Black Cloud my entire first year of duck hunting. When I cut out one of the "Flight Stopper" pellets and realized the real deal looks very little like the image that is being marketed, AND they are so much more expensive than kent shells, I will never buy another box. We killed ducks out to 80 yards with 2 3/4" and 3" kent #4's and a patternmaster choke tube. With the patternmaster long range, a friend of mine shot the winchester xperts and Remington Hi-Speed Sportsman from walmart, $8-$12 a box and killed ducks at 50 and 60 yards. We "dropped ducks like rain" with all the other stuff because we limited on every hunt.
I don't think there are any absolutes; it is all personal preference, and would never say that Black Clouds are not decent loads! However they are a little on the expensive side and will need more than a cool box and fancy slogan for me to pay the money they want for them.
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I was in between the black and Max4 also. The Max4 is so gorgeous! However, with every camo gun I have seen that gets worked like we work, the camo always starts wearing off. Unfortunately with most camo guns the underlayer is white, unlike my 11-87 which the layer beneath the mossy oak is black. The salesman at the store showed me a returned Vinci that was used half a season only and all the corners were starting to wear. A friend of mine had a BPS with the Duratouch coating; it started to wear and turn white after one season. A gentleman on our lease had one that looked horrible! If you look closely at the Duck Commander videos, their guns have the coating doing the same. Again, the Max4 is Gorgeous! No Doubt! However a black or the classic wood and blued finish looks much better-if kept oiled- than a Max4 gun with the coating worn off of it. I know the ducks don't care if the gun looks nice or not, but I paid good money for this Vinci and I'd rather it stay looking nice. I don't mind keeping it clean and oiled. It is all personal preference, but this is why I chose the black.
We hit about 500 rounds with it yesterday with not a single hang up yet! Love it!
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Hello Everyone, I have tried to contact Benelli, and had a couple stores try to contact them about parts. They have great shotguns but customer service isn't so good. I need a Supernova butt stock in realtree apg. Please let me know if you or anyone you know has one they are looking to sell.
Please email me at [email protected].
Thanks,
Heath
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thanks for everyones reply. I don't have the time at the moment because I am at work. I found a very very interesting article on Ducks unlimited website concerning the best loads. It contains a lot of facts about many loads used from 30 yds out. It has info concerning velocity, load sizes, energy at different distances, etc. It is pretty interesting as well, but thanks for all the info! Any additional will be appreciated.
I do understand that each gun is different, but statistically speaking, I am hoping it is possible to quickly narrow my search without buying too many shells as I am completely new to waterfowling. I am also shooting the pistol grip stock, which I am finding great for turkeys, but I am an archer, and moving targets are giving me some grief.
According to the article, three of the different Kent nontoxic loads performed the best out of all that actually "PASSED" the testing. Kent loads in my area are middle of the road in pricing, so I hope i am on to something.
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I'm shooting a SuperNova for waterfowling. Can anyone share some wisdom on what steel, bismuth, black cloud, hevi-shot, or hevi-steel that the SuperNova seems to like? Unfortunately you cant buy these shells individually, therefore variable patterning can get very expensive. Any wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
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I walked in this morning and got putted at from over head.
I found a place (quietly) to sit down and was 30 yards from a tom with about a 10" beard. When day broke he gobbled his head off for 30 minutes before pitching down. I could have pegged him with a 410 with #8's he was so close to me. Had my nerves tore up with all his tripple gobblin that he did.I wouldn't shoot him (even after it was plenty of light) until he pitched down. He didn't see me, but he pitched toward a place that they have been feeding. Needless to say, I was unsuccessful in harvesting him.
I must admit, I sort of regret it now, guess I'm lookin for someone to say "ya did the right thing"
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The pictures here look like a dead bird to me though.
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I have never used the Hevi 13, but i used the Nitro Company triplex (4,5, and 7's). It put 250 bb's in 12 X12 target at 50 yards.
Guy I met killed bird at 104 (rangefinder accurate) with this load. Choke tubes recommended are the Rhino .660 and Primos Jelly Head.
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Let me know if your interested in a Kicks Gobblin Thunder .665. $20 plus shipping.
Had 15 shots fired through it. Great pattern.
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Had a great last weekend! I forgot my tote to hang them up, but we ended up with 3 greenwings, 3 greenheads, 2 suzys, 1 gadwal, and 3 squealers!
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