VINCIshooter
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Your going to need a heavier hand than that......ever consider a trainer. Also that barking is not tolerable, or at least to me it wouldnt be.
well I have always wanted to start my own duck dog kennel when im allitle older i plan to, my dad use to train hunting dogs, so ive learned some from him so I want to do it all my self to prove to him and my grandpa that I can, ive watched alot of hunting shows and even the bird dog shows the labs bark till commanded, so I dont see it as a big deal im considering a choker chain so when she goes to do that initial first pull she will get the idea. i dont know if that would work or not??
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thanks ive been throwing the dummies and holding my dogs leash and letting her just stand there and yank until she figures out shes not leaving haha but the i will unclip the leash without her seeing and yell fetch and then repeat over and over for about 20 minutes shes getting allitle better still as soon as she sees the dummy its full speed ahead than she just barks till i let her go but i dont let her off till she quits pulling the leash like when theres allitle slack.My 5yr old lab breaks once and a while, when hunting with other dogs mostly.If you dog is breaking on just throw dummies, then start with staking his butt to the ground and let him hang himself a few times followed by some punishment for breaking.....then repeat till he gets it right....not all in the same day or week but keep running this drill.
Once you have that down thow in some live fire or starters pistol when the dummy is thrown, and if he breaks start staking him down again. Sooner or later he or she should get it.
In a hunting situation I normally tie my dog to the boat or blind the for the first few bangs of the morning, if he behaves we leave him free.
This might work and easy to do.
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Some dogs never get over breaking. Have you tried a check cord or an 'E' collar?
My 5 yr old lab has a real hard time while hunting. When she hears or sees birds the only thing between her ears is feathers. When guns go off she will break. I screw a 1" eye bolt into the corner of the blind & use a short lead to tether her to the blind so she cannot break. I use two lengths, a 16" and a 12" with clips on both ends depending on where I can secure the eye bolt and the blind seat configuration. This way she cannot break, steal food or knock over guns. Last season she made 110 retrieves this way. Of those 105 were blind retrieves from inside a pit. This season she has made 79 so far. All but 2 of those were blind retrieves. When i take her off the short lead she knows she is going to work. Once sent there is no chance she won't find the bird.
exactly my dogs problem i could do the bolt thing i really dont want to resort to a shock caller ive seen dogs really change from them, i have a check cord but im not exactly sure what to do with it i bought a kit from bass pro shops with a duck scent, a bumper, and check cord. my biggest issue is my dad and grandpa they think she needs to stay still and get told when to get the bird so its a matter of satisfying them
if i cant get her trained by next season im gonna try the bolt thing cause im tired of sooting withing walking distance, i did find this website that had an idea to put your dog on a lead and have it heel and walk past bumpers and say no heel when they reach for it then as soon as they quit reaching for it say retrieve or i say get it!, then do it repeativly untill they quit breaking, maybe itl help your dog also. -
first off your sig line is funnier than sh-t!!
and second off, your dog reminds me of my 2 yr old son!!
damn kid is a bolt of lightening!! ^_^sorry about that ive gotten this bad habit of hitting shift then the number it was sopposed to be 7 not & sorry
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I have a & yr old lab and i cannot get her to wait to retrieve until i command her to she bolts off as soon as the dummy is thrown or bird falls and its not safe with hunting in the blind she can stay pretty well but when a duck or dummy comes she takes off what can I do to stop this even though shes older?
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steady grip for sbe2? i heard some people say if you have a sbe2 you can get it free is that true? and whats the details on that.
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hey i was wondering if anyone has expierience with brileys chokes i bought a ported extended black oxide spectrum choke and havent shot it yet but i plan to compete with it. any competitive trap shooters that can give me a review of this thing?
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I had a gunsmith change my Vinci safety to left hand. Took him 10 min., works fine.
BOB
doesent it just pop out with a hammer and screw driver? then just flip it around. unless you have to go in the for arm peice and use some micro tool to get to it
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Beretta Holding Co., the Beretta family, own Benelli, Franchi, Stoger, Uberti & a few other gun Cos. All of these guns are made in different factorys, some not in Italy. A big sales pitch that is used in a lot of sport shops when selling Franchi's & Stoger's is "It is made by Benelli."
BOB
so your saying benelli does not own stoeger and franchi? but what still bothers me is if beretta is the higher up company why do alot of people still choose a benelli over a beretta if they have the money the extrema if cheaper than an sbe2, when things like whats better m2 or m2000 stoeger, obviusly you would choose the benelli.
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ive been hearing alot of mixed stories about either benelli owns beretta or did for some period of time or beretta owns benelli whats the truth to this or is there no relation at all?
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The simple answer is it doesn't work for doubles. In my experience it doesn't work with singles all that well either. Now that may be because I don't have it adjusted properly, but I put one on my Smith and Wesson auto and it will throw hulls right through the catcher...
I hated my save it shell catcher just went back to a black rubber band so it wouldnt mess up my sight. the save it catcher really screwed up my eyes when shooting in my opinion it dont work well at all
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i really like having the options of the shims and i wish i had that option on my first gun because i couldnt put my cheek on the stock and still see over the rib so ide hold my cheek up allitle witch now i can shoot fine that way after thousands of rounds of clays,trap,skeet and ducks, so the shims are kinda important for me now.
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I could use a little advice. I have an 8 year old daughter and I want to get her started pretty soon with a shotgun. I just want to make sure it is a small enough gun for her to handle and one that will not have much kick. We shoot upland, ducks, and some clays.
I've been thinking a 20 gauge youth gun with shorter stock and barrel in an auto-loader would be the ticket.
Any recommendations or other suggestions?
I shoot a SBE and love it but I'm not seeing a Benelli auto-loader in a youth size.
im almost 100% sure benelli has a youth/ladies montefeltro might be worth looking at its the monte or legacy one of the two
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end of duck season... the most depressing time of the year.
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did you see how much it weighs?! 4.9 pounds that's amazing how much lighter could a functioning shotgun even get?
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Be very careful when calling snow geese, they might come in
nice, hey its the only geese we get its better than nothing and I here they arent half bad eating wise
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can anyone give me some tips on snow geese calling I bought a little cheap haydels snow call and I have no clue how to use it we dont get many geese here but ide like to be able to call em when i see them can anyone give me allitle bit of a how to guide on snow calling.?
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i really like my kicks choke ive only had one cripple this year with it every other one has been clean kills and I shoot some passing "we get alot of teal" i try to decoy em but you take what you can get and my friend who has a sbe2 bought one after he tried mine and he has been getting alot cleaner shots too, i have no expierience with pattern master I think they are too expensive. black cloud shoots fine out of a kicks high flyer ive been shooting it with no problems if you were wondering, my friend with the sbe2 shoots strickly kents and he hasnt had a problem.
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I don't know much about the Vinci. I've only seen one, and only for a few minutes.
Its "newfangled."
The thing the 1100 and 391 have that the Vinci doesn't have (or shall I say, doesn't have yet) is proof of longevity.
There are 40 year old 1100's still firing away.
The Vinci was introduced last year.
i agree but the testing they put through each vinci with zero malfunctions is pretty promising in my opinion ive never had a single problem with mine exept learning how to put it together now it takes 10 seconds:D
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Just my opinion but to me black shotguns are butt-ugly. and the camo looks out of place on the sporting clay range. Hey Benelli, how about grey spider web or tan spider web on those syn stocks. I know they look great on a Weatherby rifle. (and if you use my idea i would like a discount lol)
I halfways agree with you but my vinci is black:D but i dont like certain guns black vinci is an exeption because my dad said the camo will ware off witch it sounds like benellis stay on pretty well and camo looks allitle of at trap events so does black but it aint a fashion show, in my opinion 870s shouldnt be black any beretta shouldnt be black and certain benellis shouldnt be black. i prefer wood over anything for a upland or spesific sporting clay gun but for waterfowl its gonna get dinged up.
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My 8yo is getting interested in shooting sports, especially clays. He has been shooting his grandfather's Franchi 48al 20ga, and though he is having fun, that gun is beating him to death and is awkward for his 8yo frame. I'm looking at a couple of shotguns and would like feedback.
1. Benelli Montefeltro Youth
2. Beretta AL391 Youth
3. Other
Thanks!
i would go 1100 youth the regular 1100 is great if he wants to bird hunt and shoot targets its made for both and i know the recoil on the twelve guage isnt that bad and theres a 7 yr old who shoots one where I trap shoot and hes fine with it so im sure he would be good.
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Glasses used to bug the heck out of me when hunting.
Fogging up, glare, etc.
It's fixed now.
if your glasses ever fog up rain x works great
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Easy
Beretta 391 or Remington 1100/1187
alot of people really do like the 1100 and beretta 391 they are great crossover guns for birds and clays, Ive tried em both and the 391 didnt fit me right and the 1100 had allitle more recoil and muzzle jump not enough to effect anything though. the vinci seems to be the winner in my book that or the 1100, I did notice one of my friends use to shot an old trap 1100 and was amazing in trap for his division and he got a g3 1100 i think its called and now he doesent shoot good at all just a suggestion for the 1100s. good luck with the decision
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"This is beginning to look like a classic case of ''Paralysis by Analysis''."
Yep, you right about that., I guess I'm biding my time at least til after the SHOT show.
My writing up all that gunfit info is really to make my point that gunfit doesn't really
have any thing to do with turkey hunting ,. For instinctive shooting , where you dont have time to
adjust your eye to the alignment of the barrel , it makes a lot of difference ( although, a competent
shot could adapt to a poorly fit gun )
I think most of the POI problems have to do with the magnum forces of recoil from shooting 3" or 3 1/2"
shells from a static position . Since the VINCI is so light, I'm hoping that 3" magnum shells aren't too much.
hognutz,
I know you had some issue with your pattern shooting high, have you tried to
shoot not so powerful shells at your pattern board to see if you get the same high POI?
I have been shooting 3in 3s in black cloud for ducks and the recoil is really light i can stay on the bird fine for a second shot if needed and when im hunting I stand in almost a skeet shooting position so with most guns you can get quite a kick from that way and i havent had a load hurt me yet i can shoot competitions all day with it of course those are light loads and still after a couple hundred rounds my arm is fine so recoil shouldn't be an issue i did hold it allitle off when I first got it and hit my nose a few times:rolleyes: but that wasnt the guns fault.
little time and money, need practice
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this may help you and zach, of you pheasent hunt i heard on the hunting channel that you can sell pheasent feathers for people to build fishing flys with. or build them and sell them may help.