Plowjockey
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Shooting Slugs:
My sons I-12 shoots consistently 6” to the left at 100’. I have had it to the gunsmith and he checked the barrel and it is straight. If he compensates by aligning the bead to the right of the site grove he can hit well with it.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Jeff
Kudos to your son, for being that consistent, at 100 yds, using a bead sight.
+1 to what tucker said. Sights or a scope.
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I've used the 3" Remington Accutips and have had a lot of success (
+1 here, on the Accutips (2 3/4").
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IN has a short gun season, so I decided to take up bow hunting, to get a jump on things.
Still looking forward to pulling out the SN. Received as S-Lite laser boresighter for 20th wedding Anniversery. Can't to check out the SN scope setup.
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Where did you pick up your slug scope plowjockey. I have been looking and some places don't sell the camo versions. Also if you have a picture of the scope mounted would you mind posting a picture. THANKS
The scope is on sale.
http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-1-65-5x36-slughunter-riflescope-matte-nikoplex-bdc200.html
I don't have the camo scope. It did not really seem to matter anyway, since the Badger barrel is black.
Thought about betting a camo scope and having the barrel camo coated. It seems the deer did not appear to mind how the gun was set up.
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Very glad to hear that indeed the slug barrels for the Supernova actually exist and can be purchased. My local supplier claims to have contacted Benelli directly with this question and they came back with a big NO WAY.
Eager to hear back as you have a chance to shoot yours.
So now my question is whether such a slug barrel can tolerate regular lead shot loads. Can anyone look in their user guide for either the Supernova or the Nova for me? When a rifled slug barrel is in use, are there any concerns expressed about shooting lead-shot loads? I do understand that lead shot in a rifled barrel with no opportunity for a choke selection is less than optimal. Still in the field you sometimes need to know what your options are. My question is: Will lead-shot loads damage a rifled barrel in some way? Or is there possibly some kind of severe fouling of the rifling that is a problem?
If I shoot several lead-shot loads in a rifled barrel and then follow with a slug load, is there any kind of a problem with slug accuracy? Is cleaning a rifled barrel after shooting lead-shot loads any extra work?
Thanks
i have not tried it, but I have heard that the shot pattern goes pretty erratic, when fired thorugh a rifled barrel.
You could always go the the "dark side" and get a rifled barrel, from Badger Defense. I have one and it seems to function like a rifled shotgun barrel. The Badger, like many slugs barrels, has a "faster" rifling twist rate (theirs is 1:26) so the chance of lead fouling is higher.
The owner of the Company said "don't use them" with lead slugs in their rifled barrel. His suggestion was to find an accurate sabot and stick with it.
Since the whole idea of a rifled barrel anyway, is better accuracy at longer distance, it kind of defeats the purpose, to fire heavy lead slugs, rifled or smooth. If that is all that is available in the field, then it would probably make do.
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Badger Defense, formerly Badger Barrels has rifled barrels with the cantilever mount for $220. I ordered one for my Nova.
You won't be disappointed.
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Speaking of old eyes, How is the sight picture on that Slughunter in lower light settings? Sometimes I have issues with long relief scopes as it approaches dusk.
Awesome, IMO. I can see objects through the scope, that is too dark to see otherwise. This is my first slug scope, so I'd don't have other models to compare in real life.
I wished I'd purchase the larger model though, as I'm doing quite a bit of shooting at distance, verses thick brush.
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Hello friend
Well you did a great job!
But may i know what is Slughunter scope ?
This thing is new to me...
It's a scope from Nikon, that is designed to be used with shotguns, usually with rifled barrels.
Since heavy slugs, or sabots fired from shotguns, drop pretty quick over distance, this model has "bullet drop compensation" (BDC), which has little rings, visible below the cross-hairs, to put on the target at 100, 150 and 200yds.
The slughunter also has 5" of eye releif to protect your face under heavy firing recoil.
I have the newer 1.55x5x36, which is a great scope, but frankly, with my old eye sight, wished I had purchased the more powerful 3x9x40.
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I have the Badger barrel in 12ga., with a Slughunter scope, on the cantilever scope mount.
I'm not that great of a shot, but I took a doe at 85 yards and can get on target a 200yds.
Paid about $175 picking it up in person, from Ernie's factory, in WI.
These guys know gun barrels.
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Badger Barrel which is now Badger Defense LLC sales barrels for around $200
I have the Badger in 12ga and love it. I don't believe they make a 20ga SN barrel. Maybe special order.
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Seems a bit excessive. Maybe Benelli is hiring QC people away from Remington.
My Supernova rattle seems to be more side-to-side.
Can you get your hands on another new Nova, to compare?
At $400, these are now the "cheap" guns. Get 'em out the door.
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How does the camo hold up on the guns? I saw pictures of a regularly used one and it was chipping all over by the end of the barrel...that is something that would bug the S out of me if that happened. I'd probably just end up getting it in black. I just think a Supernova w/ the Comfortech stock, gel recoil pad, raised comb pad would be a bomb all around hunting gun rather than a plain old nova
No problems here.
Camo is just paint, so if it's chipping, either it's getting solvent or oil(if it's near the muzzle), or it's just being banged around too much.
If I get any chips, I'll just touch them up. It's camo, so who will know?
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it seems to have come oiled from the factory
do i need to do anything before i shoot it?
Check you user's manual, but...
Load, point and pull trigger should do it.
Oh, don't forget to have fun.
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pretty cool
what kind of distance can you accurately shoot?
Since the sabot ammo is $2-3 per round, I don't shoot "groups", but I got bullseye at 50, 100, 150 and got on target at 200yds, first time out.
The Nikon scope has additional built-in reticles, to compensate for bullet drop.
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"Cheaper" does not pan out, IMO, when considering a gun purchase, especially if it's only a few hundred bucks. Ten or fifteen years from now, that extra money spent will mean nothing and you got the gun you really wanted.
Guns absolutely do not need hand engraving, etc. but that's what some people want and are willing to pay for it.
Get camo if you want it. It will cover up with white also.
If you decide to sell later, the camo gun will likely still be worth more than black.
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Nothing like a low starting bid to get everyone interested.
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Badger Defense Rifled barrel and Nikon Slughunter Scope.
Oh Deer!
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Great gun, but -
It's more than just slightly annoying, when deer hunting in a silent woods and the only thing heard the forearm rattling, rather loudly.
Does anyone have any specifics on how to tighten it up? I know theer is a set screw, but the rattling seems to be coming from the rear of the forearm.
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Not really looking for one, but if it prices right at the auction, I might throw in some bids.
Assuming the gun is in good condition, I'd go ~$900.If it has all 5 factory chokes, all of the shims, and the hard case, then you can comfortably add $200 to the total.
All of the books of values in the world aren't going to put money in your pocket. It's a matter of the current market and economy.
Look through gunbroker.com, armslist.com, auctionarms.com, etc. and see what kinds of sales are being made. Not asking prices - sales.
Go from there.
No need to buy one at auction when you can buy one from the comfort of your desk chair.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=159063475
Also consider buying a black one and spending $200 to have it dipped.
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I have found an SBE II, coming up at a bankruptcy auction.
Only a picture is available and it shows the gun in 12ga camo without a Comfortech stock.
Any ball bark figures on what this gun might be worth?
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Buy the gun you want.
An extra $100 "budgeted" over the next 20 years is $5 per year.
I purchased the newer Supernova APG, because it had advanced recoil supression and looked cooler, than the older Nova, regardless of which one was the "better buy".
If the money difference the two models was huge, then that would be a different story. But it's not.
Other than the extra money, there is never a time, when having a camo gun, is a disavantage, with any game. Plus camo paint protect gun surfaces better than bluing.
You will likely be using this gun for years. Buy the gun you want.
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I don't on the Supernova.
Camo is basically a paint coating.
There should be no reason to clean it with any chemical cleaner, or preservative. A mild detergent should do it if needed.
Paint will protect the gun from surface corrosion. If the paint chips or wears through, then touch it up.
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My Supernova has had a rattle since brand new (less than one year). I don't see where it can be tightened up.
IMO, many pump shotguns (I have handled) have play in the forearm, but since they were wood, any rattling does not seem to resonate like forearms that are plastic.
Universal boresight?
in Benelli
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I just purchased this model, but have not had a chance to try it out yet (bow season in progress).
Seems well built and not too expensive. It has a method to level a scope and a software program, that uses entered ballistics info, to set up targets, printed out on a printer.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Site-Lite-SL-100-Boresighter/734860.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dsl-100&Ntt=sl-100
http://sitelite-lasers.com/main.php