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JackTheRipper

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  1. AMEN goose2!!! amen!

     

    I honestly, honestly, honestly, honestly think if the Vinci were a traditional looking shotgun, EVERYONE would be raving and praising it. It has taken the Vinci a little more time to come around just because people are basing their opinions off of looks (don't judge a book by its cover, but then again, we Americans are some hardcore appearance judging people)...

     

    I can't wait to get mine!

     

    I'm still up in the air about max 4 vs realtree apg, but I'm leaning towards the Max

  2. lol no, I won't buy the 10 gauge, I think 3" will do everything... (I've thought about this for a few days)...

     

     

    I'm gonna mainly duck hunt though, but if I ever do turkey/geese hunt, I'm gonna use the Vinci and take pics and make all the 3.5" people hush ;-)...

     

    you think $1350 (not including tax) is a good price for a 26" Vinci camo (max 4)....???

     

    thanks!

  3. again I say with the extra money left over from buying the Vinci vs SBE II I'll buy a 10 gauge, which is a lot more powerful than a 3.5"...

     

    3.5" has been out since 1988... people have been killing turkeys and geese with shells less than 3"...

     

    it's almost like a macho type thing with the 3.5"...

     

    I'm gonna buy my Vinci next week, I'll post a review once I get it...

     

    I've actually been reading and hearing some bad things about the SBE II...

  4. 3.5" is totally unnecessary... I've read that it only came out because of the lead ban in waterfowl hunting. And with tungsten and other modern non toxic shells, a 3" is just as good...

     

    also, I've also heard that benelli has no plans to release a 3.5" Vinci...

     

    I myself think that people have been killing all kinds of birds/deer fine way before the 3.5" came out... for me, it's a marketing gimmic..

     

    I plan on buying one next week actually... and with the 300 dollars I save from not buying a SBE II, I'm gonna buy a 10 gauge cheapo shotgun for those cases where I think I MIGHT need a stronger gun... but that's slim to none...

     

    besides, 3.5" shells are 30% more expensive... marketing scam.... not to mention the kick is horrible...

  5. I know this has been discussed before, but I have a specific question...

     

    I'd like to know which would be better for waterfowl... and does the cordoba come in 3.5"?

     

    and if not, is 3.5" really so much better than 3"?

     

    thanks!

     

    Jack

  6. but Benelli to be sure uses good quality wood?

     

    it seems like there isn't a big difference between the Vinci and SBE II, except for the 3.5" thing...

     

    So I gotta hold both of them and see which one feels more natural... I think, from what I've read so far that the SBE II would be the better buy because it's been around longer and is tried and trusted...

     

    how would the SBE II compare to the browning maxus?

     

    thanks for all your help btw!

     

    I just love the look of wood, and it's cheaper too!

     

    what's the price of a SBE II walnut in a hunting store?

  7. I'm new to duck hunting and such...

     

    so forgive the really noobish question...

     

    I think I really like the walnut satin finish better than the camo or black composite...

     

    wood is still fine for duck hunting right? are there any cons to wood (other than it scratches?)...

     

    benelli's SBE2 is made in Italy right?

     

    thanks!

     

    Jack

  8. Defiantly the SBE2, for me I have to have my 3.5"s for turkeys. I have an M2 which is a 3" chamber, but I have an 870 with appropriate camo and a 3.5" chamber for turkeys. The vinci's new action has a slight advantage over the SBE. I will call the vinci's action the IL for "in line" and the SBE's action ID for "inertia driven". The typical ID action uses the inertia provided by the recoil to operate the action. This type of action, is more reliable between cleanings, considerably lighter, and much simpler than the more common gas system. The inertia provided by recoil throws the bolt back, and a spring in the but stock (the part with the comfortech) returns the bolt. All the same goes for the IL action, except that the spring is located right behind the bolt. This makes for a slightly lighter, and with less weight to slow it down, slightly faster cycling. The IL action also allows for easier cleaning, because on the ID action, you need to take apart the recoil tube in the butt stock containing the spring, at the most once a year for reliable cycling. The Vinci has a slight weight advantage, but only slight. The Vinci's 3 piece design is no advantage as far as I am concerned. I used to carry my supernova around in a full length hard case, which made it tricky to take to shoots with 3 people in a sedan. The SBE2 comes with a 2 piece case, where you have to unscrew the for end cap, and pull the barrel off, and lay it in the case, very easy. The 2 piece case included with the SBE2, is as small as you would need it, I can't imagine why you would need it smaller. The Vinci is a surprisingly light kicker for such a light gun. Not a big difference in recoil compared to a SBE2. You may tell yourself you don't need 3.5"s, but eventually you will wish you could try them, assuming you are an active hunter. The Vinci is markedly new and hard to find parts and accessories for. If eventually it became popular, had time to prove its self, was available in 3.5", as cheap as the SBE2, and I was looking for a 3.5" shotgun in that price range, I would go for the Vinci. For now, my advice to you is get the SBE2, and you can always sell it for a Vinci if it were to gain popularity, and come out with a 3.5" chamber. I doubt you will be disappointing whichever gun you get.

     

    what if the vinci was out now with a 3.5" ... which would you pick?

  9. I'm torn between the SBE II and the Vinci also...

     

    I have no idea why Benelli would release the Vinci only in a 3"... they clearly wanna make some extra cash...

     

    here are my questions though:

     

    1) where is the vinci/sbe2 made?

     

    2) if the vinci came in the 3.5", which would you prefer to have then? the 3.5" vinci or the sbe2 3.5"?

     

    thanks!

     

    Jack

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