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You can also check out ATI's collapsible stock, but I bet that is crap too.
And you would win that bet
I don't personally find the c-stock crap at all. The Promag c-stock is similar to, although of lesser quality, than the OEM c-stock and the buttpad seems to be much harder on the promag.
I just did not like the feel of the one Urbino stocked gun I shouldered. That was just a fitment for my frame issue and I never shot the gun.
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Ok, I have to apologize for my complete inability to comprehend what I read until I just read it two more times. I now see that Hardcharger was not complaining about a lack of quick response to his question, rather was saying 22 views and no problems reported. I am sorry that I misunderstood and that I was an arse in the process.
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Woo Hoo!!!!!!
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I'm curious about this piece. What issue exactly does this part remedy? Does the OEM part bite people's thumbs? I only have one issue concerning the loading of my M4 and it's not the carrier, I think.
It's the extremely sharp edges of the receiver that hurt the sides of my thumb when inserting shells into the the tube. I have large hands but, not huge like say Hickok 45's hands.
I'm assuming that this part does nothing to remedy that?
It is supposed to remedy the thumb bite that the carrier can cause because of the front cutout. I have never had a thumb bite from the OEM carrier personally even with stuffing the shells as fast as I can but others have reported losing a nail or skin. I bend the distal joint of my thumb and use the knuckle to push the carrier out of the way while I stuff the shell into the mag tube with the tip of my thumb. The carrier stays out of the way until I remove my thumb completely by pulling it backwards, dragging my knuckle on the carrier until it has cleared the front. No way for me to get bit. Sometimes the method needs to be changed, not the part.
As far as the edge of the receiver hurting you, it sounds like you need to file down the size of your gorilla thumb :-P.
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Wow 22 people and np niceOk,.....no experience with it. Maybe that tells you something.
To add to M2_shootr's comment... Those kind of impatient, accusatory, and inflammatory follow ups by the op, especially only 3 hours after the original question, certainly aren't going to make me, and I dare say many people, even with experience with the product, want to reply. SD is just that nice of a guy apparently...
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But it seems like those who don't use any thread locker at all don't seem to have any issues,
So far for me, ^this.
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Anyways I am looking for a little bit of info, first is the extension tube on amazon legal to have (I heard it has to be made in USA to be legal)
Also what are some of your favorite shells? I have heard Winchester and Remington are bad ammo. (I prefer slugs and thinking of ordering a case of federal ammunition slug rounds)
1. Become familiar with 922® compliance. Start here for info: http://freedomfightertactical.com/922r-faq/
2. I've never had any problems with Winchester or Remington shells in my M4 although I've only used them for practice - and a lot of them. Federal (or other brands made by Federal) is what I've always used at work. Winchesters haven't been the cleanest of the shells I've fired but my M4 will fire in essentially any condition so the worst is it takes an extra pass or two to clean it after using the "crappy" shells.
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I love the Benelli oil. But like truckcop says... take your pick. They are all excellent and suck at the same time.i used the Benelli oil that came with the M4, is that wrong? is there something better?thanks...
Zero polishing done here and zero failures to date. 100% reliable so far - don't know how I could improve on that.I can't remember where I heard this but in order to improve the reliability of the M4 you need to polish and lube the inside of the receiver extention tube. Is this correct? Would it help or harm the operation? -
Although I have never won anything like this, including your previous giveaways, I always love it when you do this
favorite shotgun forum: forums.benelliusa.com
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*snip* will the suppressor affect the the A.R.G.O. system operation?
No.
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Matt,
Would you please point me to one of these independant long term reviews? I can't seem to find one anywhere on the internet. I can't even seem to find a review on your own website. I just see "be the first to review this product." I can only find "reviews" which simply read as a sale's pitch from when you first released the product and the poor reviews here on the BenelliUSA forum. If you have others, please direct us to them.
And... radio silence.
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Nice idea. Completely eliminates barrel shadow.
There are just a few problems I see with it in the current form (there may be others to point out as well).
1. Switch is too far away. The support hand certainly would be waaaaaaay far forward. The switch is essentially in front of the magazine cap and I'm not sure I can comfortably reach past the cap while in a shooting position. Actually I know I couldn't.
2. Dangerous positioning. If I could reach it, I certainly would not want to put my thumb out there past the working end of the barrel to turn the light on, especially with the adrenaline pumping. Well, just put the switch on the bottom you say... perhaps but what if you need counter pressure to activate the switch? Now your fingers are in front of the barrel...
Both of those could be solved with a remote switch but just by looking at the picture I don't see how one could attach a remote switch as configured.
As far as breeching is concerned, hmmmm... I wouldn't do it with that thing on.
At $185.00 I'll let someone else be the guinea pig.
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YesSo is this normal then?
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See below:*snip* even if they place a "lifetime warranty" on the product and are willing to replace it with another inferior quality piece which will just prove to fail at some time in the near future as well. *snip*Hey guys, I see your comments and trust customer service has helped you as we have a lifetime warranty and definitely stand behind it.See? Lifetime warranty
*snip* There are lots of places people can find independent reviews and we work with reviewers/testers on various mediums on a daily basis, you just didn't go about it the right way.Cheers, Matt - ATI
Matt,
Would you please point me to one of these independant long term reviews? I can't seem to find one anywhere on the internet. I can't even seem to find a review on your own website. I just see "be the first to review this product." I can only find "reviews" which simply read as a sale's pitch from when you first released the product and the poor reviews here on the BenelliUSA forum. If you have others, please direct us to them.
LoLThanks for saving me the trouble.
In the "internet words" of my teenagers, "ikr".
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Gander Mountain (*snip*) outrageously expensive
These are synonyms.
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One can always hope that a company known for poor to at best marginal quality has turned around with a stellar product. Unfortunately it is the more trusting, uniformed, or risk takers that usually find out that the new product lives up to the original reputation instead of the company's intrinsic quality control assuring that the quality is acceptable. It always irks me when companies use their customers as guinea pigs for their product research even if they place a "lifetime warranty" on the product and are willing to replace it with another inferior quality piece which will just prove to fail at some time in the near future as well. Insanely expensive is correct... they have to have enough profit margin to cover the initial returns that people will make before just becoming too frustrated with the part and trash it altogether. If too many people force warranty returns the company may just call it "cosmetic" or "normal wear" and stop warrantying the defect. Just my $0.02.
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I'd put OEM internals into the Promag stock. Mainly the pins and the unlock button. You can source the parts from places like Numrich Arms.
One certainly could do that.
The promag recoil pad is somewhat harder than the benelli pad but it does say "promag" on it which could help one argue compliance (although there is still some question as to whether or not the promag stock actually fits the letter of the law for 922r compliance). I am not recoil sensitive at all and did not notice the difference in pad hardness myself but it did make a difference for my wife and kids. The finish quality on the promag is not, imho, very compatible with the rest of the firearm. I tolerated it at first but the shiny stock was a bit odd. Once I switched back to the OEM unit, it was very evident in the quality of the finish... so add a can of matte spray paint to the list and some fine sandpaper or primer...
The parts you would need are essentially 2 retaining pins, a button spring which each cost about $9.00, and the button which is about $32.00. So, total of $41 in small parts and the promag stock and you have it.
retaining pin: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/1439710.htm
button spring: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/1439720.htm
button: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/1439730.htm
retaining pin #2: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/1439650.htm
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Regarding the pro mag, a quick google search shows that it can be bought with a pro mag collapsible stock. How does the pro mag stock compare to OEM?
How does a Yugo compare to a Ferrari? That's about the same as the promag and the OEM. They will both get you to where you want to go but... I didn't used to think so until I changed my promag for the Benelli OEM. There is an obvious quality difference. If you can only do the promag it will work but I would save the money and just get the OEM (extra 922r compliance issues and all).
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Currently less expensive and without the unknown Botach factors of availability by clicking this link: http://forums.benelliusa.com/showthread.php/32992-Benelli-M4-Collapsible-Stock-249?p=186004#post186004
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Just so no one thinks she's just making this up, you can find those^ exact words here:http://www.americanhunter.org/articles/how-to-achieve-perfect-shotgun-fitCastCast is the windage adjustment on a shotgun. It’s a lateral bend in the stock designed to center your dominant eye over the rib. Shooters with wider, rounder faces or narrowly set eyes often need cast, while many thin-faced shooters can shoot uncast stocks (most American gunstocks have no cast, whereas many European guns do). Right-handed shooters need “cast off,” a bend to the right; lefties need “cast on.” If you want to adjust cast on a pump or a semi-auto shotgun use a toothpick shim. Loosen the bolt and wedge the shim lengthwise along the stock head opposite the direction you want to bend the stock. Gunsmiths can permanently cast stocks with hot oil or a heat lamp.
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Well, when I ordered mine it was... honestly I can't remember but I can tell you it was worth the wait. As StrangerDanger has posted here before, the Ti weight savings are essentially the same as the weight of the extra shells held in the full length magazine. For me this was paramount in the decision. The finish was a spot on match to my barrel which was not paramount in the decision. The threads were perfect and clean. But as others have posted, it is a metal tube, pretty hard (as a legitimate company) to mess up (as compared to some guy in his basement with a wood lathe and a tree in his backyard to straighten the tube) and you should be fine with just about anything if you don't care about the weight, etc.
Honestly, no idea how to answer your question as to wait time but, for me, it was well worth it.
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Don't understand why you state the forum is dead? !!
If you scroll down to the Franchi forum, you will notice many, many replies to my question about chokes for the Instinct L.
They were so overwhelming that I had to hire a secretary to reply.
Perhaps it's because none of the other members own an Instinct L and have nothing to add or can't answer your question. I've never had any problems getting answers to questions about the M4 which is what most of the members here seem to own.
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I only know of .308, .30-06, .300 win mag and .338 win mag with the last three being the only new production models iirc.
Anyone going to Shot Show?
in Benelli
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