M2_shootr Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) Looking for a black Scalarworks Sync RMR mount. Seems they are backordered, I bought an AimPoint model by mistake. The RMR model is out of stock. Thanks in advance ** Looks like I may be giving the AimPoint Mount a try. A bit of information about the RMR that I didn’t realize has me rethinking that optic for this use, Edited January 29, 2018 by M2_shootr Idea sideline..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I think I only have a Dark Earth one on hand unfortunately. And a couple Black Aimpoint ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Edited, yes, looking for a black one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 So....perfect thread...do people prefer the aimpoint or rmr...why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVATactical.com Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 If was going into war, aimpoint. Seems more protected, durable. Battery changes without removing the sight, tool-less, no screws to loose or need thread lock. Also seems to capture my focus and bring my eye to the dot very effectively HD or other situations where you are still backed by home comforts, society, functioning economy - the RMR is lower profile, lighter, more open design that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortec MAX Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Don't forget that one drop of water on the emitter of the RMR scatters the dot all over the view window. After using my M4 in the rain with an RMR, I switched to an Aimpoint micro. The sealed tube on the Aimpoint prevents water droplets from acting like prisms with the dot. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortec MAX Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Can you just exchange for the correct mount? I am interested in a Scalarworks Aimpoint mount because I like the design, but the price has kept me at bay. Can't seem to find a deal on one so my Midwest mount is working just fine for now. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout_21 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I went with the aimpoint + scalar works mount due to being up in Alaska... with a fair amount of rain. Also had considerations with much colder temps in winter so the t-2 was a shoe in for me. I pretty much agree with what AVATactical has down. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Unless you find one used somewhere you're going to get MAP pricing for Scalarworks. Best you can hope for is free shipping. I prefer the smaller size of the RMR over the T1/T2. I like the auto adjusting reticle and I prefer the view through the RMR over the tube like T1/T2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMLA-167 Warrior Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 If was going into war, aimpoint. Seems more protected, durable. Battery changes without removing the sight, tool-less, no screws to loose or need thread lock. Also seems to capture my focus and bring my eye to the dot very effectively HD or other situations where you are still backed by home comforts, society, functioning economy - the RMR is lower profile, lighter, more open design that works. Having been to war(s), this ----^ is spot on. And in spite of the second paragraph's truth, Aimpoint still sits on top of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Having been to war(s), this ----^ is spot on. And in spite of the second paragraph's truth, Aimpoint still sits on top of mine. I'll stick with my h2, then. I can't imagine the raging ***** it would be to take a weapon outside in the rain only to have it freeze in the emitter pocket of the rmr. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 Can you just exchange for the correct mount? I am interested in a Scalarworks Aimpoint mount because I like the design, but the price has kept me at bay. Can't seem to find a deal on one so my Midwest mount is working just fine for now. Mike In my eyes,......$119 isn’t an expensive price for a QUALITY optics mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 Hmmm,......a great amount of information about the RMR that I was unaware of. Sounds like the T1 may be a much better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 In my eyes,......$119 isn’t an expensive price for a QUALITY optics mount. Absolutely not. It's par for the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intervention Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Aimpoint on mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortec MAX Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 In my eyes,......$119 isn’t an expensive price for a QUALITY optics mount. Generally, I would agree with you. This mount is one piece and has no mating parts, so it is not as complicated to produce as say a one piece cantilevered scope mount. The Midwest equivalent has a street price of about half of the Scalarworks. Even Geissele, who has very expensive parts, has rifle mounts for the Aimppoint that retail for about $95 and can be had for closer to $70 during any of their frequent sales. So to me, they are asking a premium for a mount that might look nicer than the one I am using, but does not really function any better. If I were to see a good deal on a Scalarworks, I would consider changing out the Midwest. At $120, it is just not worth it to me. Are you selling yours? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) I respect your opinion, but I certainly wouldn’t consider the MI mount over the Scalarworks. We are talking about a mount for a Benelli, not a Mossberg or Remington. In my opinion, $50 ain’t shiOt considering the cost of the M4. In my eyes, the MI mount is blocky & only uses two screws for attachment., that’s a fail for me. I’m sure it would get the job done, but it’s just not for me. Edited January 29, 2018 by M2_shootr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Generally, I would agree with you. This mount is one piece and has no mating parts, so it is not as complicated to produce as say a one piece cantilevered scope mount. The Midwest equivalent has a street price of about half of the Scalarworks. Even Geissele, who has very expensive parts, has rifle mounts for the Aimppoint that retail for about $95 and can be had for closer to $70 during any of their frequent sales. So to me, they are asking a premium for a mount that might look nicer than the one I am using, but does not really function any better. If I were to see a good deal on a Scalarworks, I would consider changing out the Midwest. At $120, it is just not worth it to me. Are you selling yours? Mike It is 7075 (MI uses 6061) It has a constant-curve underside (takes money to machine and match.) It has slots that are made for slip-fit interference with the screws (giving it twice the lateral anchorage of the MI mount) The screws are custom made for this application, and then sent to be Nylok treated (costs more than the screws themselves, what's MI do?). It also has material removed where it is not needed, in such a way it is not meaningfully, if any, weaker structurally. (Significantly lighter than MI) This is similar to saying "I see no value in a BMW M4. My Mazda 3 has 4 tires, a combustion engine, etc." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortec MAX Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 The Geissele Aimpoint mount is also 7075. CNC machines don't really care if cuts are curved or straight. Loctite works great on the MI screws. And I drive a Prius instead of an M series because price matters. Is it that big a deal that I think the mount is too expensive? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) The Geissele Aimpoint mount is also 7075. CNC machines don't really care if cuts are curved or straight. Loctite works great on the MI screws. And I drive a Prius instead of an M series because price matters. Is it that big a deal that I think the mount is too expensive? Mike No, it's your opinion. The G mount also has less cutting operations. It's also less well done, in my experience, regarding the tolerances of the finish. By far. Your Prius will get you from A to B, but there is also a lot of stuff it WON'T do in between, that the M series will. Edited January 30, 2018 by Unobtanium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 The attachment system of the Scalarworks Sync rails is far better than the MI rail. The two hidden captive fasteners look great and prevent the fasteners from walking out. I found the Scalarworks Aimpoint mounts for the AR series to be better than Larue/ADM/Geissele. I’m sure they’re made in lower volume than the big guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 The attachment system of the Scalarworks Sync rails is far better than the MI rail. The two hidden captive fasteners look great and prevent the fasteners from walking out. I found the Scalarworks Aimpoint mounts for the AR series to be better than Larue/ADM/Geissele. I’m sure they’re made in lower volume than the big guys. My finding is that the scalarworks mounts are good for 5.56 guns, but move too much on .308, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 I use Knights or BoBro for .308 platform gas guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I use Knights or BoBro for .308 platform gas guns I went geissele, but kac and nightforce are good too. I don't qd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 Have not played with Geissele mounts yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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