bluegoose_hunter Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Hi, I have a Beretta ES100 Pintail which is very similar/identical to the Benelli Montefeltro. I have had the gun for about two years and this week it began to give me problems. Here is what is happening: I can fire the gun once, go to shoot the 2nd time, and I get nothing. The gun does not fire, the hammer does not drop. This is very sparatic, sometimes I can get 2 shots off, and the third won't fire. What I think is happening is that the gun is not resetting the hammer. I haven't comfirmed this because when I tried to get this to happen on purpose, it fires fine every time. I don't have a cycling problem, but twice I have had the gun double fire on me, making me think the the hammer isn't being pushed all the way back to be "locked" by the trigger. This is occuring on high brass 2 3/4 #4 duck load as well as low brass 2 3/4 #7 target load. I haven't tried 3" shells yet. So I think this is either a force problem (not enough powder to cycle the bolt completly), I am not holding the gun tight enough against my shoulder, or something needs cleaning. What do I need to clean/look at to fix this problem? Has anyone had this problem with any of your Benellis? Any help would be great. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1014 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 pintails are basically modeled after the pre 85 Benellis,,there mechanics are the same but they have the 3''chamber option,,hmmmmmm,barrel swap,,ooohh,,back to the pintail,,first,,clean your trigger group really well,,I mean REALLY,,put it in your hand,,,see how the springs feel,,look closely for a wore out spring or a worn down metal contact to contact part,,some old benellis don't have disconecctors,,so your hammmer spring or where the hammer catches the trigger point of catch is wearing down,,pintail is not known for great metalurargly however you spell that word. check it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegoose_hunter Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 I took the gun completly apart and didn't notice any worn spots or bad springs. Any in particular to look for? The recoil spring in the stock was dirty, but not rusty. Do you think this could be part of the problem? What part would cause the gun to not re-cock the hammer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC 121 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 M1014 i also have a es 100 havent had that problem but was wondering if you knew a good site to get parts for those particular guns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC 121 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Do either of you know if they make and extension mag for the es100 or if you have to buy a different barrel with a longeer bracket and mag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1014 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 what does dc121 standfor???intresting handle,,anyways,,for parts try e-gun parts,or your basic goole search,,now for a mag extension,,that gets tricky,,cause your extenteded threads may not be like your reciever threads,,so heating the tube and finding out the threads won't work is risky to say the least,,barrel ring and relocation have to be taken into cosideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1014 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 look at your manual or view the exploded view on e-gun parts,,,maybe your firring pin spring,,sounds like your pintail doesn't have a dissconnector,,some older Benellis don't either,,my 121 m1 does and it blew a hole in the wall one night a while live fire demonstration and it has a dissconector,,,those pintails are pre 85 Benelli clones which they inherit the same mechanical faults,,it even says it in there manuals of the day,,so go over all the easy checks before tearing out the recoil tube,,bottom line is these older semi autos will keep you on your toes so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC 121 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 ya i'm new to this and ive been trying to find a recoil spring tube for my ES 100, the name is somethin i just thought of but thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegoose_hunter Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 I think sure cycle makes a tube that fits the ES100. Perhaps a montefeltro tube will fit as well. I am still working on mine. Just deep cleaned it and will try it again this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC 121 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Hey thanks alot found what i was looking for sound pretty nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENELEO Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Hi, I have a Beretta ES100 Pintail which is very similar/identical to the Benelli Montefeltro. I have had the gun for about two years and this week it began to give me problems. Here is what is happening: I can fire the gun once, go to shoot the 2nd time, and I get nothing. The gun does not fire, the hammer does not drop. This is very sparatic, sometimes I can get 2 shots off, and the third won't fire. What I think is happening is that the gun is not resetting the hammer. I haven't comfirmed this because when I tried to get this to happen on purpose, it fires fine every time. I don't have a cycling problem, but twice I have had the gun double fire on me, making me think the the hammer isn't being pushed all the way back to be "locked" by the trigger. This is occuring on high brass 2 3/4 #4 duck load as well as low brass 2 3/4 #7 target load. I haven't tried 3" shells yet. So I think this is either a force problem (not enough powder to cycle the bolt completly), I am not holding the gun tight enough against my shoulder, or something needs cleaning. What do I need to clean/look at to fix this problem? Has anyone had this problem with any of your Benellis? Any help would be great. Thanks! If the bolt is cycling far enough to the rear to extract and eject the spent shell, it isn't binding, and the hammer should be held by the sear, and there should be no problem with the recoil spring. Sounds like the hammer may be "following" the bolt, instead of being held as it should be by the sear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1014 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 page 34,,pre 85 manual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegoose_hunter Posted October 19, 2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2008 This sounds like it may be the problem, but I am going to need a little guidence. I have no idea what this means... I would start with a trigger /sear changeout as per the original described failuar function. I don't have an original owner's manual for this gun, but ordered one from Beretta when I got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1014 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 check you pm box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegoose_hunter Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 Ran some 3" steel loads through the gun this weekend after deep cleaning it. No re-cocking issues, but I did have a double fire on the 2nd shell. If I replaced some parts, where would you start and where can I get them? Are these interchangable with the SL 121? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1014 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 shifting gears,,bolt group,,spring replacement,check pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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