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Here's my simple credo about adding all manner of junk to a perfectly good Benelli M4:

 

If it isn't a functional improvement, don't add it.

 

I realize that this may anger the teenagers and members of the 'Video Games Rock' generation. Well, frankly, I don't care.

 

Hey, tell me where to go and where I'm wrong. But be prepared to defend your argument.

 

Greg

 

I'm going to add a cupholder for my rockstar's... and a pouch for my i-pod

 

Functional right?

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What is your definition of "functional improvement"?

Mike, functional improvements can certainly mean different things to different people, no doubt about it. I think we can agree though that some things aren't functional improvements, can't we?

 

Let me try one extreme example just to start things off...how about desert camo on a weapon that will never be within 1,000 miles of a desert?

 

What about you - can you give some examples of non-functional improvements (an oxymoron, but you know what I mean)? Surely you can think of a few...it's kind of like pornography - hard to define but you know it when you see it.

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...I'd add collapsible stock to the list, unless you're going to shoot with a vest or fast rope from a helicopter with it. The collapsible stock is tacticool but serves no functional purpose for the average guy. It's just one more moveable part to break.

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...I'd add collapsible stock to the list, unless you're going to shoot with a vest or fast rope from a helicopter with it. The collapsible stock is tacticool but serves no functional purpose for the average guy. It's just one more moveable part to break.

 

 

So, if you don't do all that stuff, and you're an average guy, an adjustable stock wouldn't be any help at all, even if it helps to shoulder and fit the gun more quickly?

 

I remember many complaints and two threads on here asking how to chop the buttstock down because it's long.

 

But, I suppose an adjustable stock just won't help because we're not fast roping and wearing armor.

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ER,

I had an M4 with a collapsible stock at one time because I got it at a terrific price. The adjustments on it were too lengthy to make it useful in the sense of making it fit better...IOW, the first step down didn't shorten it a little, it shortened it a lot. I can understand wanting to improve the LOP by shortening the stock a little for folks with shorter arms, but the collapsible stock just wasn't useful in that way.

 

Can you think of any common mods that you run across that you might consider non-functional?

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Mike,

I was thinking about your question about the definition of functional vs. non-functional...cosmetic changes might be a good place to start.

 

Nothing wrong with cosmetic changes per se if that's your thing...it's your gun after all...but I can't think of a cosmetic change that would be functional other than the camo finish if you're patrolling in the desert.

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Nice. But do you find that the sling gets in the way more than it is useful? I only sling the gun if I'm taking a class. Otherwise as a HD weapon the sling just seems to get in my way.

 

Yep, I agree for HD........not needed!

 

John

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can you cowitness irons with that set up? what mount did you use for the t-1

 

There is no optic as of yet that will co with the stock irons UNLESS:

 

Take an M4 rail, have it milled/machiend to accept a JPoint. THAT MIGHT! work.

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