Way OT: Pretender in Chief no longer a 'theory'

[texas skeeter]

texas >> on der topic of relative 'intelligence'; thankie for the lessons (by yous example) on grammer and punctooation !

 

It shurin is a heap eezier not havin' to hit the shift key! I will now tries it.

 

Well i took yous advice and reads my history book and lookie what i find;

 

didin' you know that states like texas were a slave states? Even found out that the republic of texas (tejas?) was based on keeping black men, women, and children as imprisoned slaves to work for their master texans (massa?) .

The slave state continued when texas joined the confederacy an only ended by the yankee defeat of the whole south! Since that time, to present, there are many who hate blacks and the federal government in the south, these race & gumbermint haters' are collectively (luvin'ly) referred to as 'rednecks'.

 

Thankee much on the advice to read the history. You is keepin us infromed .

It surin' explains a lot about the feelings afor the black president today.

 

Oops..gotta go now, glenn beck is on the fox news and is gonna tell us what to think {and do}, see ya at the next 9-12ver teabaggin' meeting!

well it still doesnt change the fact, republicans still ended slavery!! While dumotards fought to keep it. Um, check the voting records. And at least these people you make fun of are trying to voice their opinions about how this country is being ruined by mr spendbama and the idiots that voted for him. And dont be hatin, we still like to hear from libtard idiots here. Thats also why i moved from ca. To texas a few yrs ago, to get away from the sluggo's and tuckers that ruined crazifornia!!

[Trapshooter1]

 

I voted for Obama. His stance on guns is not good but what he has been doing seem to be bring the economy around slowly. Also there has been no gun bans as all the chicken littles predicted as soon as Obama took office.

The main reason most of the chicken littles don't like him is because he is black.

Pat

The reason why I don't like him, is because his ways of bringing back the economy don't work, just to name one reason. Think about it, you take a higher percentage of money away from the rich to give free health care and government hand outs to people that should have worked harder to get a better education, high school drop outs, lazy people that don't want to work, etc. A lot of these people are factory workers. They work for the rich people that own, or manage that factory. The rich people then start losing money due to Obama increasing income tax, and can't afford to pay the workers and keep the business going. They go bankrupt, and all those people you are trying to help, loose their jobs. Another way over taxing the rich hurts the poor people, is those rich people have less money to spend on stuff they don't need like another pair of shoes. The factory workers that make those shoes get paid by the shoes they make, they make less shoes, they get paid less. One more example, a small business owner that makes just over $250,000 a year gets a tax increase. Every year he makes just enough money to buy the materials needed, pay for his workers and building, and support his family. Obama takes away some of his vital income, and he ends up loosing money every year, has to get rid of the business, the lower class working for him loose their jobs. I will admit we do owe a lot of the debt now do to bush, but he was not the ideal republican. He was a bad spender. Show me proof of Obama helping the economy so far Alaska. There can't be any for sure proof he is hurting or helping so far, time will tell.

[Trapshooter1]

texas >> on der topic of relative 'intelligence'; thankie for the lessons (by yous example) on grammer and punctooation !

 

it shurin is a heap eezier not havin' to hit the shift key! i will now tries it.

 

well i took yous advice and reads my history book and lookie what i find;

 

didin' you know that states like texas were a slave states? even found out that the republic of texas (tejas?) was based on keeping black men, women, and children as imprisoned slaves to work for their master texans (massa?) .

the slave state continued when texas joined the confederacy an only ended by the yankee defeat of the whole south! since that time, to present, there are many who hate blacks and the federal government in the south, these race & gumbermint haters' are collectively (luvin'ly) referred to as 'rednecks'.

 

thankee much on the advice to read the history. you is keepin us infromed .

it surin' explains a lot about the feelings afor the black president today.

 

oops..gotta go now, glenn beck is on the fox news and is gonna tell us what to think {and do}, see ya at the next 9-12ver teabaggin' meeting!

OK so just because I am from the south means I am racist and I can't say a sentence without pronouncing every word? There are a lot of racist people in the south, but that is because there is a shortage on respectable blacks. Most of them down here are want to be gangsters that wear their pants around their knees, and cuss their heads off and make fun of whites. Their are also white people that do that to and I don't like them any better. Their are a lot of black people that steal from stores and houses for sale etc. They also get into fights and I can go on and on. Obama obviously isn't one of those people, I dislike his political views. Come down here to the south and pick your insults based on the hard working honest to God farmers that make up of the majority of the people I know not the white trash racist pot heads you see on TV.

[Trapshooter1]

You're doing it wrong.

 

 

That doesn't mean anything I am sure there are good and bad, smart and stupid people on the liberal side to.

[Trapshooter1]

Wow a guy who probably did not finish high school is questioning my intelligence.

Wow, a liberal is making a pointless insult that doesn't contribute to this discussion.

[Mr Slugo]

trapshooter said:

There are a lot of racist people in the south, but that is because there is a shortage on respectable blacks.

Oh, so that is the reason.

 

And just how would you treat a 'respectable black'?

 

 

[Trapshooter1]

Oh, so that is the reason.

 

And just how would you treat a 'respectable black'?

 

 

With respect

[Mr Slugo]

With respect

 

Then sir, that is exactly the way a respectable black man duly elected to the Office of the President Of The United States should be treated.

Respectfully agreed with.

Or respectfully dis-agreed with.

 

Keep up the respect, and you will make me proud to say that you are a righteous fellow American and a gentleman.

[Trapshooter1]

Maybe I should have said "that is probably why there are so many racists" or "that is one of the reasons"

[Trapshooter1]

Then sir, that is exactly the way a respectable black man duly elected to the Office of the President Of The United States should be treated.

Respectfully agreed with.

Or respectfully dis-agreed with.

 

Keep up the respect, and you will make me proud to say that you are a righteous fellow American and a gentleman.

I try

[texas skeeter]

Then sir, that is exactly the way a respectable black man duly elected to the Office of the President Of The United States should be treated.

Respectfully agreed with.

Or respectfully dis-agreed with.

 

Keep up the respect, and you will make me proud to say that you are a righteous fellow American and a gentleman.

yeah? the same respect you and your libtard friends gave bush right???:rolleyes:

[Mr Slugo]

yeah? the same respect you and your libtard friends gave bush right??

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." ~ President George W. Bush, 2002

 

 

now its a time to go ponder some deep thoughts:p

[tucker301]

Skeeter,

I voted for Bush... twice.

I wish I hadn't, but I did.

So he had my respect, my support, and my vote for quite some time.

He, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Gonzales, and others did everything they possibly could to burn through their equity with me.

 

They trampled the Constitution, bankrupted a nation, and duped the Congress, the public, and many of our allies into a war that was neither necessary nor in any way helpful, and in most ways harmful.

In many ways, they effectively doubled our 9-11 losses and then some. Not only in terms of human losses, but in terms of running an effective recruiting drive for our extremist enemies and for further destabilizing an already shaky region.

All of that done on what turned out to be unsubstantiated and uncorroborated evidence from the nephew(?) of the guy who wanted a broken Iraq to fall into his lap.

The guy we gave Millions of dollars to bring us some evidence.

 

I voted for Obama, because A - I couldn't stand leaving the reins in the hands of the drunk, hapless, belligerent, and irresponsible for another term, and B - Because John McCain utterly and completely proved his decision-making abilities were pushing senility with the choosing of that dingbat from Alaska.

 

As I did with Bush, I will give Obama a chance.

 

Unlike Bush, who took office in a time of prosperity and growth, and with surpluses as opposed to deficits, Obama was handed the wheel of the Titanic when she was about three seconds off the iceberg.

 

So far, he has done remarkable things.

 

He has cleaned up the bailout mess where Bush and Paulson threw money into a well without so much as asking how deep it was.

With some actual conditions attached to the money Obama has put into the economy, he has sobered Wall Street and taken steps to insure that taxpayers' money is being put to good use.

 

He has stopped human rights violations being perpetrated by our government.

 

He has re-focused our military on the proper objective in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The one that Bush's CIA had pinned down in Tora Bora and then refused to send in reinforcement to get the job finished, because Cheney had a personal bone to pick with some at the agency.

 

He has rebuilt bridges burned between us and our allies by the former administration.

 

He is moving us towards fixing the single largest remaining threat to our economy and to our children's future, the out of control healthcare industry in America.

 

Heck, he has even given me unexpected bonuses with the repeal of the Bush ban on guns in National Parks.

 

Trapshooter,

Your analysis of the merits of trickle down economics is truly misguided.

Any successful manufacturer will tell you that the road to productivity, and thus profits and prosperity is paved with employees who are healthy and who take pride in their work, due to having a sense of owning some part of what they're doing.

Your sweat shop mentality may have worked OK in the days before worker's rights and safety laws were implemented - a kind of paid slavery, if you will.

But those tactics don't work now.

 

The rich keep the poor working by having the extra money to buy an extra pair of shoes?

Are you serious?!

 

The amount of tax increase being proposed on those making over $250,000/year equates to what most of us would consider a night out at a nice restaurant.

In the course of a year, it will matter not one iota.

 

I do well enough in my business.

I have a company. I pay an accountant to manipulate my finances in such a way that it appears to the government that I barely scrape by every year.

I pay less taxes now than I did when I made half as much, doing the short form.

He plays within the rules, but he sure knows the rules well.

 

The proposed tax increases will be on people with much better accountants than the one I use, but some small trickle of money will make its way through.

 

Those proverbial drops in their buckets will make huge differences in the lives of the workers who drudge away in their factories and offices every day.

 

My hope is that by the time that Obama finishes his work, no worker in America will have to feel trapped in a crappy job, because they're afraid to lose health insurance for themselves and their families.

 

Too many employers are using healthcare as leverage to hold employees without giving them better wages and other benefits.

Many companies have dropped pension plans and combined contribution savings plans altogether, just to keep health insurance in the benefits package.

Too many good people are afraid to take a chance, like the one I did.

 

Socialism?

Maybe.

 

But what's word for the taxpayers having to come to the rescue of the rich when they've driven their Benz into a ditch and are "too big to fail" or the "economy will crater".

 

Words of wisdom from the ex Chariman and CEO of Goldman Sachs.

You know his name. Or maybe you don't?

 

And please, PLEASE don't come back with that classic GOP rebuttal that it was all Carter's and Clinton's fault for making the banks give loans to deadbeats.

 

You want to know what really drove this company over the brink?

Look no further than the hands-off government you so deeply yearn to let back into power.

[tucker301]

Given some of the signs and posts above, Bush did indeed leave some children behind.

[Trapshooter1]

The rich keep the poor working by having the extra money to buy an extra pair of shoes?

Are you serious?!

 

The amount of tax increase being proposed on those making over $250,000/year equates to what most of us would consider a night out at a nice restaurant.

In the course of a year, it will matter not one iota.

That was just one example, the Cadillac a rich man buys is made by factory workers, that house he lives in was maid buy low income workers, The close on his back came from factory workers, everything he buys supports people that have low income. How nice of a restaurant are you talking about? Do you have the evidence to back your facts up? How many nights out a year at that nice restaurant are you talking about? Canadian health care is another reason why I don't like Obama. Obama want's to overhaul the health care system, but how does he plan on paying for it? Tax. Tax is taking away freedom, we are spending are money on things we don't want to spend it on, he is literally forcing us to spend our money on what he want's, which shouldn't be allowed.

[Trapshooter1]

I agree with you that bush and mccain where both idiots, and pretty much worst case scenario for the republican party.

[texas skeeter]

Skeeter,

I voted for Bush... twice.

I wish I hadn't, but I did.

So he had my respect, my support, and my vote for quite some time.

He, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Gonzales, and others did everything they possibly could to burn through their equity with me.

 

They trampled the Constitution, bankrupted a nation, and duped the Congress, the public, and many of our allies into a war that was neither necessary nor in any way helpful, and in most ways harmful.

In many ways, they effectively doubled our 9-11 losses and then some. Not only in terms of human losses, but in terms of running an effective recruiting drive for our extremist enemies and for further destabilizing an already shaky region.

All of that done on what turned out to be unsubstantiated and uncorroborated evidence from the nephew(?) of the guy who wanted a broken Iraq to fall into his lap.

The guy we gave Millions of dollars to bring us some evidence.

 

I voted for Obama, because A - I couldn't stand leaving the reins in the hands of the drunk, hapless, belligerent, and irresponsible for another term, and B - Because John McCain utterly and completely proved his decision-making abilities were pushing senility with the choosing of that dingbat from Alaska.

 

As I did with Bush, I will give Obama a chance.

 

Unlike Bush, who took office in a time of prosperity and growth, and with surpluses as opposed to deficits, Obama was handed the wheel of the Titanic when she was about three seconds off the iceberg.

 

So far, he has done remarkable things.

 

He has cleaned up the bailout mess where Bush and Paulson threw money into a well without so much as asking how deep it was.

With some actual conditions attached to the money Obama has put into the economy, he has sobered Wall Street and taken steps to insure that taxpayers' money is being put to good use.

 

He has stopped human rights violations being perpetrated by our government.

 

He has re-focused our military on the proper objective in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The one that Bush's CIA had pinned down in Tora Bora and then refused to send in reinforcement to get the job finished, because Cheney had a personal bone to pick with some at the agency.

 

He has rebuilt bridges burned between us and our allies by the former administration.

 

He is moving us towards fixing the single largest remaining threat to our economy and to our children's future, the out of control healthcare industry in America.

 

Heck, he has even given me unexpected bonuses with the repeal of the Bush ban on guns in National Parks.

 

Trapshooter,

Your analysis of the merits of trickle down economics is truly misguided.

Any successful manufacturer will tell you that the road to productivity, and thus profits and prosperity is paved with employees who are healthy and who take pride in their work, due to having a sense of owning some part of what they're doing.

Your sweat shop mentality may have worked OK in the days before worker's rights and safety laws were implemented - a kind of paid slavery, if you will.

But those tactics don't work now.

 

The rich keep the poor working by having the extra money to buy an extra pair of shoes?

Are you serious?!

 

The amount of tax increase being proposed on those making over $250,000/year equates to what most of us would consider a night out at a nice restaurant.

In the course of a year, it will matter not one iota.

 

I do well enough in my business.

I have a company. I pay an accountant to manipulate my finances in such a way that it appears to the government that I barely scrape by every year.

I pay less taxes now than I did when I made half as much, doing the short form.

He plays within the rules, but he sure knows the rules well.

 

The proposed tax increases will be on people with much better accountants than the one I use, but some small trickle of money will make its way through.

 

Those proverbial drops in their buckets will make huge differences in the lives of the workers who drudge away in their factories and offices every day.

 

My hope is that by the time that Obama finishes his work, no worker in America will have to feel trapped in a crappy job, because they're afraid to lose health insurance for themselves and their families.

 

Too many employers are using healthcare as leverage to hold employees without giving them better wages and other benefits.

Many companies have dropped pension plans and combined contribution savings plans altogether, just to keep health insurance in the benefits package.

Too many good people are afraid to take a chance, like the one I did.

 

Socialism?

Maybe.

 

But what's word for the taxpayers having to come to the rescue of the rich when they've driven their Benz into a ditch and are "too big to fail" or the "economy will crater".

 

Words of wisdom from the ex Chariman and CEO of Goldman Sachs.

You know his name. Or maybe you don't?

 

And please, PLEASE don't come back with that classic GOP rebuttal that it was all Carter's and Clinton's fault for making the banks give loans to deadbeats.

 

You want to know what really drove this company over the brink?

Look no further than the hands-off government you so deeply yearn to let back into power.

well now theres alot here so lets get started. i did vote for bush twice as well. and also not happy w/ everything he and his lackeys did. but that being said at least 6-1/2 of his first yrs we had a great economy and after congress went all libtard w/ 2 yrs left on his parade, imagine the economy went to sh-t.

 

so obama has cleared up a bailout mess? B.S.!! he's givin sooooooooo much $$ to a bunch a ******** co's that SHOULD HAVE just gone out of business!!! AIG,GM ETC. NOOOO business is too big to fail and tax payer $$ SHOULD NOT keep their BAD BUSINESS ETHICS AFLOAT!!!

 

the war?? which one?? he and ALL his cronies said they were against both of them and wanted immediate withdrawls!!! WHERE'S the immediate withdrawls now that he's boss???

 

he's rebuilt relationships w/ allies? he's made a laughing stock of america w/ all the apologizing he's done!! i cant even think of one nice comment he's made about the U.S. at any overseas apology tour or any speech ever. and he sure does support our biggest allie isreal?? um nope..

 

he stopped human rights violations??? those ******* camel jockeys killed innocent americans on our home land!! so WHATEVER tactic is needed to get info on how and where to stop more of these ******* nutjob islamics, then so be it!!! come on, waterboarding?? yeah that really hurt them didnt it?? what a f-cking joke to call waterboarding torture!! they attacked US remember?? no you dont, most libtards DONT REMEMBER 911 and all the tragic deaths that occured!! they just want to give human rights to a bunch of ******* wacko nut jobs that are still trying to kill americans!!! i call that just plain stupid!!! and it was clinton that fell asleep at the wheel and ignored ALL the signs about us getting attacked. it just didnt take them 8 mo's to plan the twin towers, it took them almost 2 yrs +. all the signs were givin to clinton and he ignored them.

 

the guns issue?? they werent in the whitehouse more than 2 mo's and his lackeys were already talking about gun bans. dont you think they had better things to do w/ a bad economy at that time than to talk about gun bans? ill bet you anything, when things settle down w/ his lame ass NO-CARE bill and his TAX/TRADE bill guns will be next. all his libtard friends want guns gone, and he has jumped to their every whimmm.

 

and last but not least. THE POOR IN THIS COUNTRY??? most people in the U.S. are poor for one of 3 reasons. 1- some sort of handicap/mental problem, 2-lack of education/know how and 3-pure laziness. so for 2 out of 3 reasons something can be done to make yourself rich!!! end of story!!! ANYONE CAN WORK HARD or GO TO SCHOOL to make themselves rich, but they choose not to!!! AND WHY IS THAT???

 

ive owned my own business for yrs, have worked in the same trade for 24 yrs and got real good at what i do as well as you. im in no way rich but i choose to be where im at in life, very comfortable. think about it, a kid from the ghetto can get a job at mcdonalds in any bad city. learn EVERYTHING THERE IS to know about the operation. make mgr w/in 3-5 yrs. and then go on to buy their own branch and be successful. but NOOOOOOO they dont want to start at the bottom like most of our generation!!! thats why ALOT of people voted for CLOWNBAMA, for all the FREE SH-T!!! and why is it that the poor society in this country just expects EVERYTHING IS OWED TO THEM NOW???

 

ive been trying to give obama a chance, but w/ ALL the CRAZY people and tax cheats as well as embezlers he's added to his administration, all the lies, doubletalk and campaign promises broken. its hard to believe a word he says now!!! and dont make me list the lies cause there's probably 2 dozen of them i can think of. TRANSPERENCY???? and lets see some more cat pics. pretty cat!!LOVE SKEETER

[tucker301]

Do you have the evidence to back your facts up?

Yes.

http://currencythoughts.com/2008/09/26/us-gdp-growth-under-different-presidencies/

 

 

Canadian health care is another reason why I don't like Obama. Obama want's to overhaul the health care system, but how does he plan on paying for it? Tax. Tax is taking away freedom, we are spending are money on things we don't want to spend it on, he is literally forcing us to spend our money on what he want's, which shouldn't be allowed.

Obama has nothing to do with Canada's Healthcare System. Nothing. Why would you "blame" him for it?

Taxes pay for government goods and services that serve the common good of all people. You know? Socialism.

Things like the military, police departments, fire departments, etc.

Protective and regulatory agencies like the FDA, FCC, FAA, FDIC, DOT, etc. insure that we can go about our daily lives with some structure and safety provided by the government. They regulate private industries to insure uniformity and to guard against chaos and abuses.

 

A country with no taxes to pay for such services is either paying for them with nationalized industry, such as Dubai's oil industry, or they are living in chaos.

Show me one country where its citizens do not pay taxes, and there is no nationalized industry, and I'll show you chaos and poverty.

 

Did you live in Canada before you moved to Arkansas? Is that why you say these things? Do you have firsthand experience with their healthcare system?

Edited September 16, 2009 by tucker301

[texas skeeter]

hey tucker, no comment?

[tucker301]

On the subject of Canadian Healthcare; we have a number of Canadian members on the forums here.

Perhaps some of them could relate their experiences to us?

 

skeeter,

Until you begin to show signs of adulthood, my dialogue with you ends with this post.

[tucker301]

While we ware waiting to hear from some of our Canadian members, let's take a look at some comments from an American who now lives in Germany.

 

http://www.amiexpat.com/2009/08/18/health-care-in-germany/

[Red Huck]

On the subject of nut job Islamics, rag heads an such. Most people over the world get their religion from there family or community.Say Skeeter was from Iran instead of Texas more than likely he would be an Islamic rag head nut job with an AK47 instead of a benelli. Its real hard to beat an enemy that uses the tactics these nutjobs use an who will sacrifice themselves to get a few of you. Thanks to that other Texan we'll be fighting and dieing an the hands of those nut jobs in all probability for a long time.

[OhioM4]

Time for some comic relief!

 

A woman goes into a sporting goods store to buy a rifle. "It's for my husband," she tells the clerk. "Did he tell you what gauge to get?" asked the clerk. "Are you kidding?" she says. "He doesn't even know that I'm going to shoot him!"

[DumbDuck]

Red Huck etal.

 

My history is a little fuzzy. What happened on 11 Sept. 01. I don't remember that "Texan" bothering a soul before that.

 

Of course there are those who claim it never happened, that President Bush master minded it or that "we had it coming". I've seen enough in this discourse to believe that a few people on this form believe at least one and maybe all of these claims to be true.

 

Oh! For the record, I'm from WI not TX.

[TokenWhiteMale]

Yeah, let's get rid of him. lol, indeed.

 

I mean, isn't nine months long enough to turn a $3 trillion deficit into a surplus, bring two wars (one completely unnecessary) to a close, and bring the entire out of the economic ditch that the previous administration drove us into?

 

Gun-grabbing, you say?

 

Other than doing away with the ban on firearms in national parks, what new guns laws have been implemented under the new administration?

What's that again?

I'm sorry. I'm not hearing you?

 

Ahhh yes. There it is. The great ACORN scandal.

After numerous attempts and failures in major cities across the nation, the ambitious hidden camera film crew finally found themselves an ACORN worker who gave some really bad advice in Baltimore.

 

Imagine that. A corrupt and immoral person in Baltimore. Whoda thunk it?

 

If they wanted to expose corruption and a lack of morals, they could have saved themselves quite a bit of budget and just hung around Hypocritical Headquarters, aka the GOP.

 

Pick a governor from SC who goes off the grid to visit his girlfriend in South America.

Or how about an assemblyman in CA, noted for his strong "family values" positions.

Who knew those positions were from the Karma Sutra handbook on the nightstand of the Energy lobbyist hottie?

A good spanking indeed.

 

lol

 

Hey asswipe. I saw your prickish post to the member who bought a new 20 ga. for doves and almost commented on it. You are such a smug prick it is almost beyond belief.

 

You want to debate Obama with facts and his administration with facts....bring it on. Your race baiting, moronic comments will not go unchallenged by me, and I imagine a few others here.

 

As an independent voter your comments are extremely offensive and your smug bs makes me want to puke.

 

Educate yourself Tucker. I would be more than happy to set you up with many links if you are objective.

 

Given your post, I would guess you are a union member or life long Dem.

 

Or an ACORN member who likes guns.