Steve1968LS2 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Even though I live in this stupid state I had to buy another AR, especially since I got what I think is a great deal. Rock River Arms XM-15. A guy had the whole weapon online for sale but I worked out a deal where he kept the lower and I bought everything else. This made my life easier since I didn't have to "import" the lower into the state which is a PITA. I bought a RRA lower at the gun show for $175 and voila, I had a whole gun. To be legal I had to install the bullet button, but I can convert it back easily if I leave the state. And of course I can only run 10 round mags.. but it's better than nothing and if the SHTF then I can run whatever. The deal also included 5 30-rnd mags which I had shipped to my folks in Texas for safe keeping. Here I have a big box of pre-ban mags and a 100-rnd C-mag.. just in case. Paid $1200 for the weapon so I'm in this for $1400.. not bad considering the Surefire light goes for around $600 on the net. It has two lamps (125 lumen an 250 lumen) and also has LED nav lights. Cool little unit. The Eotech is the lower model one but it works fine. I need to get a flip up rear sight though. I wouldn't pay $600 for the light, but it was pretty much free. Anyone know if the front sight and gas block can be removed and replaced with a gas block/rail deal? That way I could have a flip up front sight as well and won't have to have the irons cowitness with the Eotech. Can a smith do it? Anyways, here it is.. it's a good match up with the M1014 I bought last month. Zombies beware! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1968LS2 Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 Speaking of my new M1014. My Ti tube showed up from Kip at CarrierComp!! Today elves installed it. I don't why people were so worried about this. The elves told me they stripped the gun, put it in my vise (didn't even ask me if they could use it) and with a set of "soft jaws" they heated up the area for a bit and twisted off the stock tube. I was told there wasn't even any residue. Funny to just come home and find this done to my weapon. Anyways, here are some pics: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKETW19 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Does thge Eotech co witness the front sight? They sell flip ups that will attach the same way you have it. I love the sure fire light I have 1 on my ar also. You can find good deals on them used every now and then. I paid 350 for my last one. I need another for my UMP conversion let me know if you wanna sell. Thoes elfs did a good job on that tube I wonder if they work for santa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1968LS2 Posted December 25, 2009 Author Share Posted December 25, 2009 Does thge Eotech co witness the front sight? They sell flip ups that will attach the same way you have it. I love the sure fire light I have 1 on my ar also. You can find good deals on them used every now and then. I paid 350 for my last one. I need another for my UMP conversion let me know if you wanna sell. Thoes elfs did a good job on that tube I wonder if they work for santa? A little.. it's not bad, but I would rather have a flip up front sight. The only downside to the Surefire light is weight.. but it's a nice compact unit. Love the CarrierComp tube.. easy to install and great looking. I wish my Benelli finish was as nice as Kip's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1968LS2 Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share Posted December 26, 2009 Hmm.. I would have expected a few comments.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Everyone is on Xmas break. Nice job with the Benelli. I agree the Surefire is heavy. I never liked the forward vertical grip myself. The broom handle concept is lacking to me. I do like the navigation lights in the unit though. As someone who spends a lot of time armed in the dark, low output nav lights are a nice touch. What I would recommend is that you have the barrel profiled down to .625" before and after the front sight post. Have the barrel length cut to exactly 16" with a comp pinned in place to conform to State law. This will cut 10 ounces of weight off your weapon. Have a low profile gas block installed at that time so you can add a flip up front sight and remove the obstruction from the optics FOV. Adco could do all of this in about 2 weeks. The balance of your weapon would greatly improve. It would help offset the weigh of that light package and help shift the center point of weight back towards the mag well. I chickened out taking my complete Benelli to California earlier this week. I ended up only taking the barrel assembly in order to spec out the gas pistons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1968LS2 Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share Posted December 26, 2009 Everyone is on Xmas break. Nice job with the Benelli. I agree the Surefire is heavy. I never liked the forward vertical grip myself. The broom handle concept is lacking to me. I do like the navigation lights in the unit though. As someone who spends a lot of time armed in the dark, low output nav lights are a nice touch. What I would recommend is that you have the barrel profiled down to .625" before and after the front sight post. Have the barrel length cut to exactly 16" with a comp pinned in place to conform to State law. This will cut 10 ounces of weight off your weapon. Have a low profile gas block installed at that time so you can add a flip up front sight and remove the obstruction from the optics FOV. Adco could do all of this in about 2 weeks. The balance of your weapon would greatly improve. It would help offset the weigh of that light package and help shift the center point of weight back towards the mag well. I chickened out taking my complete Benelli to California earlier this week. I ended up only taking the barrel assembly in order to spec out the gas pistons. You must of gone to the Del Mar show.. I almost went there. Like I said, I don't know if I would buy the Surefire given its cost, but it was nice to get it in the deal. The best part is I can easily put it on, take it off and transfer it to weapons in just a few seconds. No pressure pads and wires to mess with. The nav lights are cool, nice to have and they use very little power. I take it milling the barrel down is a specialist job.. is there a website for Adco? Milling down the barrel would make it thinner, yes? and wouldn't that effect accuacy to some degree? So is this done just to lose some weight? The barrel on the weapon now is a heavy version from Rock River. Right now the barrel is exactly 16" plus the A2 compensator.. so I guess you're saying cut off the length of the comp and have it pinned to the barrel? My old bushmaster was like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1968LS2 Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share Posted December 26, 2009 I have a follower on the way and then I guess I HAVE to change my foregrip to be 922r compliant.. pisses me off since I like the factory one just fine, but there's no other parts I can replace with US made ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 I was in HellA to meet with a machinist about making a US Made set of pistons for the Benelli M4. The barrel being cut down to a low profile is for weight reduction. They put the barrel in a lathe and cut the outer diameter to .625". Your barrel is probably .750". The difference doesn't sound like a lot, but it makes a huge difference. I didn't notice any reduction in accuracy in mine. However, I'm not a benchrest shooter. Hbars will handle heat better. I doubt that would be much of an issue with the fixed magazines in California. My barrel was the same length as yours. They cut it down to 14.5" and pinned on a flash suppressor so the overall length is 16". If flash suppressors are illegal, then pick a compensator. Are flash hiders legal in California? I'm not really up on all their BS laws. Here is adco's website. http://www.adcofirearms.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 (edited) I HAVE to change my foregrip to be 922r compliant.. pisses me off since I like the factory one just fine, but there's no other parts I can replace with US made ones. Hey Steve, You're preachin' to the choir with this one. I'm really looking forward to the Mesa Urbino stock both for the shortened LOP and the fact I can go back to my stock grips. I also want to check out the cheek riser option. That might be the nudge I need to get an optic. BTW the pics look great! Later, Hookster Edited December 26, 2009 by Hookster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKETW19 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Right now the barrel is exactly 16" plus the A2 compensator.. so I guess you're saying cut off the length of the comp and have it pinned to the barrel? My old bushmaster was like that. He is a shop in so-cal that can do anything you want to you AR http://www.ar15barrels.com/index.html Side note I realy dont get the whole weight thing does your gun feel off ballance? I always hear people complain about weight and thought they just were to weak to carry a gun,lol but balance I see as a valid point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 The lighter a weapon is, the faster it will be in a close quarters area of operation. A lot of people just sit at a range and shoot at stationary targets in great lighting. If so, weight reduction won't matter very much. However, if you plan to carry the rifle for miles slung, you'll notice a half pound drop. You will be faster when bringing the weapon onto target. It will be easier to aim for several minutes at w time off hand. Cutting weight from the muzzle is a great way to shift the balance to the rear. Remember that all that weight at the front is leveraged against you. I avoid mounting anything on the side rails in order to preserve balance and to avoid having obstructions that will rack your shins or upper leg when slung. Top and bottom mounted lights are great to avoid this. My current light of choice is a 12 o'clock Surefire X300. It weighs 4 ounces and is obstruction free. I see absolutely no value in having a heavy barrel on a semi automatic carbine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Is this for first AR? If so, congrats ... you will soon have BRD. I'd sell the surefire light personally ... there are much better options for way cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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