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Ever tried to reach them?

Ever tried to license their reamers?

Ever tried to get load data from them?

 

Well....

 

So have thousands of others.

 

Alexander Arms (Bill) compiled much of his proprietary market-share under enforcable protection while colaborating with a much larger entity, that might have discarded Bill when able, just because they could... or so they thought.

 

Bill protects his prodegies (Beowulf, Grendel) not from profiteers, but from hacks.

Why does he put his logo in with die sets? Because he confronts competent load data, prior to Lee or Redding. They respect that and so do I.

Why does Bill reserve authorized barrel offerings to only licensed reamers? Because people tend to blame the platform before the vendor when carelessness manifests preventable glitches.

Where is Bill when you call him?;

Wrangling with American beaurocracy;

Sorting out details to keep ammunition costs down, and quality up HIS way, in spite of the industry's best efforts to commandeer pricing (way high) and quality standards... below what AA would predicate.

 

I CAN NOT TELL you what Bill is defering to while some would try and sway him to relinquish his sweat equity, and how he chooses his battles, he would not approve of anyone tipping his hand, or justifying his unwillingness to cater to wolves in sheep's clothing. I WILL say that I know his direction is impeccable. His intention is to preserve the integrity of what he has wrought, and in due time, offer more to those who observe and respect his actions, much more highly than the words of spin doctors.

 

A few examples;

 

Some say his compensator's thread pitch proves he is an elitist... I say he did it the hard way so no one would inadvertaintly put a .416 suppressor ahead of a .50 caliber bore. They too lament his use of a .906 dia gas block, while simultaneously bemoaning the weight of THAT rifle... the .960 dia block/barrel the author prefered weighs more. That grinch should make up his mind eh? They never mentioned that licensed vendors make it available with .875 gas block diameters... common as rain last time I checked. The accounts of what trivial ridicule ought be ignored speak for themselves, but rest assured, I KNOW what he is up to, and I admire the man and his measures without exception, much more so than any suit who rides the laurels of so many under-paid minions. Bill is circling the globe, slaying dragons he won't brag about. Keeping industry honest, and threatening to re-vamp how we "GET" what we demand, an honest product, at a fair price, from reliable sources.

 

Just had to throw this out there after reading some of the bone-head reviews that like Bills guns, but hate how the ammo and licensing fails to fall from Froot-Loop Boxes, or worse, adhere to socialist's free distribution of industry clauses....

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Great insight.

 

I had heard of some of these issues of which you speak ... people complain that the 50 beowulf and 6.5 grendel are great rounds, but that AA has too tight of a grip on their production and as such they will never make it mainstream as the 6.8 SPC and .458 SOCOM have.

 

It's good to know that his desire to control the production of his creations comes out of legitimate concern for top tier quality.

 

I've long wanted a 6.5 upper ... LaRue said he is working on getting 6.5 stealth uppers approved, if that goes through I will likely get one ... Ion Bonded LW50 stainless polygonal rifled 6.5 Grendel barrel? Yes please.

 

People will always hate what they can't have this instant and will always want something for nothing ... that doesn't mean anyone has an obligation to give it to them.

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There's "dazed and confused" (hattles?)... and then there's reality. AA could entertain all bidders and net more, at the expense of random results, or stay the course for a finite niche, that perfectly suits its intended application.

 

Ensuring the latter necessitates boundaries. That dazes and confuses the robber bird every time.:p

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Whenever someone comes up with something good, useful, and full of win. Someone else always schemes to stand on their shoulders and pluck from the ***** tree things they didn't work for, don't understand, and don't deserve.

 

ETA:

WHY THE **** is "a-p-p-l-e" ***'ed out?

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Are 6.5 Grendel rifles California legal, anyone know?

 

I don't think they are treated any different from a 5.56 AR, ie subject to the same restrictions ... but I could be wrong, as I'm not a CA resident and CA has some even more absurd laws than my home state of NY.

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It's the .50 that they won't allow, yes?

 

In a rifled barrel, the distance is measured between opposing lands or grooves; groove measurements are common (by interpretation stemming from legislative action) in cartridge designations originating in the United States, while land measurements are more common elsewhere.

 

In days of yore a .50 was a fifty, and the bore accomodated a patch. The lands defined the caliber. Away went the patch, and a .50 BMG while still a ".50" bore at the lands, required a .510 projectile sans the patch. Powers that be split that hair, and held the projectile culpable (by extension) for the revised designation. Clever enough to ensnare broader offenses.

 

Historically the bore was defined by what could freely pass through it, any projectile diameter beyond that is an amenity to afford a seal, and engage rifling... an addendum to the bore.

 

Summary, the .50 Beowulf would have been called a .490 in less oppressive days, when a spade was a spade... but now it is a .50 due to revisionary politics. Legal in California though. Since we bent our knees to "their" new yard-stick.

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In a rifled barrel, the distance is measured between opposing lands or grooves; groove measurements are common (by interpretation stemming from legislative action) in cartridge designations originating in the United States, while land measurements are more common elsewhere.

 

In days of yore a .50 was a fifty, and the bore accomodated a patch. The lands defined the caliber. Away went the patch, and a .50 BMG while still a ".50" bore at the lands, required a .510 projectile sans the patch. Powers that be split that hair, and held the projectile culpable (by extension) for the revised designation. Clever enough to ensnare broader offenses.

 

Historically the bore was defined by what could freely pass through it, any projectile diameter beyond that is an amenity to afford a seal, and engage rifling... an addendum to the bore.

 

Summary, the .50 Beowulf would have been called a .490 in less oppressive days, when a spade was a spade... but now it is a .50 due to revisionary politics.

 

Very informative post!

 

To make light of a bad situation, I think it's common enough to round up to the nearest half-inch :D

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The Beowulf then is legal in California, a .490 (oversized +.01" for efficient seal) fired from a .490 bore (with .500" grooves).

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The Beowulf then is legal in California, a .490 (oversized +.01" for efficient seal) fired from a .490 bore (with .500" grooves).

 

That makes me wonder why Barrett stepped it down so much in size with their .416 barrett round ... I assumed that it had to be nowhere near the size of a .50.

 

Perhaps they had designed the round prior to the .50 CA ban, and it was ballistically superior enough that they kept it, and it just happened to also fill the CA need.

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That makes me wonder why Barret stepped it down so much in size with their .416 barrett round ... I assumed that it had to be nowhere near the size of a .50.

 

Perhaps they had designed the round prior to the .50 CA ban, and it was ballistically superior enough that they kept it, and it just happened to also fill the CA need.

 

Once you've watched one's vapor trail you'd concur with your last paragraph. It SAG all the way. (Shi*s And Gets)

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