twowheelhooligan Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 (edited) The Shotty used for all of my following photos was: Benelli M4 18-inch barrel equipped with Carlson's Breacher Choke. All targets were fired upon from a distance of 30ft. My first dimension will be the pattern size on HEAD target, the second will be CENTER MASS. There are(should be) a series of ten photos. This is about the extent of what is readily available to me short of mail-ordering and 3-inch shells. During a previous testing I performed I found that the 3-inch shells consistently patterned worse(waaay wider) than 2.75-inch shell. Also I am sorry for the lack of photo quality w/ the white-target photos. Had my pocket camera along instead of SLR for that shoot. Was my testing super-dooper scientific? NOPE! Am I being endorsed by anybody? NOPE! Did I have fun doing it? YEP! Next should be what a slug can do to. . . .. . (insert your LEGAL target of choice here.) I hope you all enjoy the photos. TUCKER. . . thanks to your post from 2007 for teaching me how to post photos!!! BIG BIG help!!!! This is Sellier & Bellot 2.75" OO Bk, 9 pellet. 5.5-inch / 7.75-inch Edited July 24, 2010 by twowheelhooligan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 This is Federal Vital Shok, Flite Control Wad. 2.75" OOBK 9-pellet. 3.5-inch / 4.5-inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 This is Winchester Super-X 2.75", OOBK 9 pellet. 6-inch / 5.5-inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 Remington TAC-8 Buckshot. 00BK 8-pellet 1325fps 6.5-inch / 6.5-inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 Remington Buckshot, OOOBK 2.75" shell 6.75-inch / 6.0-inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 Remington Buckshot 1BK, 16-pellet, 2.75" shell. 10.5-inch / 11.0-inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 Olin Corp "military grade" 2.75" 00BK 9-pellet 8.5-inch / 7.5-inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 Fiocchi 00BK, 2.75-inch 9-pellet 3-inch / 4-inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 Federal Tactical w/ flitecontrol wad. 2.75" 00BK 9-pellet 1145 fps 4-inch / 2.75-inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 Federal Power-Shok 2.75" 00BK, 9-pellet 6.50-inch / 4.0-inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhoi_fan Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 (edited) Thx for the photos During a previous testing I performed I found that the 3-inch shells consistently patterned worse(waaay wider) than 2.75-inch shell.I've also always found that the patterns are blown apart and very irregular with the 3" rounds. The other disadvantages to 3" - less magazine capacity, more muzzle flash, and more difficulty staying on target with the extra recoil. Conclusion: forget the 3" rounds and only use the 3" when that's all ya got. Edited July 24, 2010 by Sukhoi_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12508 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 (edited) Thanks for posting. It looks like S and B and Fiocchi are good performers pattern-wise. Especially for the money. Edit: Which particular Fiocchi loading is that? Is it nickel plated? Low recoil? Edited July 24, 2010 by 12508 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzman Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I'm also curious regarding the Fiocchi load you used. It patterned really well for you, and is very reasonable. Grizz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03mach1speed Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) Thanks for all the work and photos. On a side note, I don't remember which Fiocchi my buddy tried to shoot out of his Saiga, but it absolutely would not cycle. It was 9 pellet 2 3/4" 00 buck, not sure what the dram was. I tried one and it was the only round that has ever failed to cycle on my Benelli M2. I had to swear them off after that outing. Oh yeah, I do remember that they were sold in 10 round boxes and were low recoil...... Good luck.... Edited July 26, 2010 by 03mach1speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 Some of you were right on par. I had to find another box to give the p/n, so apologies for delay. Ammo is 12LEOOBK - Nickel Plated, 9-pellet, 1150fps "Low Recoil" They cycle FLAWLESSLY. . . . in my particular M4. Your own testing and evaluation is recommended if this is the round you choose for HD purposes. Regards! 2-wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12508 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Some of you were right on par. I had to find another box to give the p/n, so apologies for delay. Ammo is 12LEOOBK - Nickel Plated, 9-pellet, 1150fps "Low Recoil" They cycle FLAWLESSLY. . . . in my particular M4. Your own testing and evaluation is recommended if this is the round you choose for HD purposes. Regards! 2-wheel Great info. I like that it is affordable and plated. I'm tired of cleaning up after cheap unplated buckshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tactical1 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) twowheelhooligan - very nice article and I appreciate the time and effort to document your findings - if I may, what made you choose the Carlson Breacher Choke tube? "Carlson's new Tactical Breacher Choke Tube allows ou to turn your hunting gun into a home defense gun. The open choke allows for shooting with lead, buckshot, Hevi-Shot or steel shotshells. You can count on this choke tube for your security needs. Backed by Carlson's Lifetime Warranty!" http://www.choketube.com/mobilchoke.html From AR15 FAQ's Do I want large or tight patterns with buckshot? Tight patterns are desired because we want all of the buckshot to impact the target. And projectiles that miss the target will continue down range, and will cause us to violate Firearms Safety Rule #4 - Be sure of your target and what lies beyond it. Isn't a wide pattern an "advantage" of using a shotgun? No, it is not. It is a definite advantage when hunting and wing-shooting birds with birdshot. But when used for home defense, we do not want any projectiles to miss the target, and this requires tight patterns. Buckshot does not "act like one slug". Therefore, even if the pattern is tight, the individual buckshot will each create its own wound channel when it impacts the target.om AR15 FAQ's Edited August 31, 2010 by tactical1 added FAQ from AR15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Dak© Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Great info/tests! Thanks. In the first pic (This is Sellier & Bellot 2.75" OO Bk, 9 pellet. 5.5-inch / 7.75-inch), isn't that 12 pellet? I have some S&B and it's 12 (and the pics have more than 9 holes ) Seeing these, I'm pretty happy with the Federal LE Tactical that I got on sale! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted September 1, 2010 Author Share Posted September 1, 2010 SuperDak - -- DOH!!!!!!!!! Holy crap, I need to get out the abacus next time I do that. Thank you for the correction. Tactical1 - I didn't choose the Carlson's with much of a scientific approach. I wanted a breecher choke, Carlson's was in-stock @ Cabela's when I went to the store, I bought it. If it weren't for cost, I'd love to do a breecher-choke comparison as well. Buy one of each, then run the shot/buckshot/slugs through them!!! Basically, I just love experimenting. A) Gets me out of house, away from wife. B) go back to "A" C) Shootin' stuff is fun. 2-wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tactical1 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 2-wheel - your shooting logic is flawless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooky Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Excellent post. So conclusion would be 2.75 00 buckshot.... Whatever you find available. It is better to have 15 pellets than 9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saym14 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 nice work thanksfor the pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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