Guest cleefurd Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) Glad to see these coming. Q: Kip, is there any way to address the trigger disconnect issue with the m4? When outshooting the shotgun, you can drop the hammer on the bolt carrier while it is still cycling once the shell elevator drops. You end up with a live round, hammer down condition. A: While I've heard of but not experienced this personally, I suspect wear or mod's as a possible culprit if occuring during firing mode. Possibly trigger engaged during manual cycling... or weakened and sticking disconnector spring/plunger??? Q: My bandaid fix was to reduce the weight of the bcg by going to a lightweight charging handle and shooting hotter rounds. Aside from being US made, would you consider your offering to be a superior part? Ie: better materials, machining, heat treatment and/or finish? A: Yes Sir our parts do meet and surpass OEM spec's. They are wire EDM profiled, drilled and finish machined within spec'd fixturing, and the disconnectors undergo a PVD/CVD coating process which far exceeds the OEM hard chrome finish. The hammer is Milspec phosphated, after which the engagement surface and pivot points are honed/reamed respectively. Finally controlled process (with print-outs) heat treat and tempering is conducted to 48C-50C of the A2 steel to ensure enduring performance.. A2 (tougher) was selected over D2 (more brittle) because of the pointed hook geometry Benelli uses, which would be prone to chipping if D2 were used. Any agony of swapping parts for compliance will quickly fade when you see how refined these components are. Their fit, form and function are profound. I still find myself amazed when I look at them next to an OEM part, and realize how cost effective these rascals have made it to avoid scrutiny. Q: Also, have you started working on a disassembly guide of the trigger pack? A: A compilation of dis-assembly/assembly photos has been amassed, for printed instructions. Additionally we are developing an on-line video library for product use, performance checks, instalation tutorials etc as we speak. Q: Are you going to SHOT this year, and do you have a booth? A: Absolutely ! We will be there Jan 17-23, accompanying Satern Custom Machining and SOG Knife and Tool. Will have my folks along (Mom and Pop) who are regular attendies coming up from NM. Text us while there and we'll reply with our where-abouts and look forward to meeting you. A: Thx Stev Please read replies above Edited January 4, 2011 by cleefurd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cleefurd Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Drooling for your charging handle too. Any idea when those will be available? The CVD/PVD coating for them is being applied by the same company doing our disconnectors. Their minimum batch fee is high, so both parts will be submitted together, hence the delay on the bolt knobs/handles. We have decided; If the disconnectors are not complete by January 23rd (when we return from the Shot Show), we will send the bolt knobs and F.I.S.T. comps out together, avoiding further delay. From that point turn-around time should be under two weeks back to our dock, so Feb 1 is the latest ETA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamoel Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 will that mean the FIST is going to be released soon as well? this shall be a great year for the M4 then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cleefurd Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Kip, ..... .....Your words of wisdom and your insight are always objective and from the heart. I truly believe that The USMC was lucky to have you in their service as are we for your ingenuity and wisdom! Keep up the good work!! THANK YOU!! 2-wheel From what this means to me, it is doubtful any trained thought I can muster would fairly reciprocate the gesture. Dad told me "When words fail you...say THANKS" The time you took to say just these things, reminds me that every matter of every moment within any day I endeavor to honor an aquantaince, is by far the least I can do; This sort of conduct, transforms us into Americans United... ...a dying art it seems, but not for the few. (or you ya Hooligan). Humbly, Kip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super33 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 It's a good thing california has so many great gun laws, it really seems to have helped the crime rate.... My M4 isn't 922r compliant and it's a much deadlier weapon because of it. Having too many foreign parts makes my M4 much harder to control, by this I don't mean it's function, it's actually easier to control with that C stock. What I mean is, it wants to kill and it cries "hold me back, hold me back!" PLEASE help me to make my gun 922r compliant! I feel like I'm harboring a fugitive! Please help me make my gun safe to myself and the wonderful public around it. I remember clicking a link somewhere on this board that sent me to a site that had US made foregrips that looked like the OEM grips but I can't find that link and I don't remember what the site was. Does anybody know the link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cleefurd Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) I remember clicking a link somewhere on this board that sent me to a site that had US made foregrips that looked like the OEM grips but I can't find that link and I don't remember what the site was. Does anybody know the link? These are an upcoming OEM match, US made. http://freedomfightertactical.com/products-page/forends-and-followers/the-freedom-fighter-tactical-922r-compliant-forearm-forend/ Edited January 3, 2011 by cleefurd providing link to requested alternative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super33 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 These are an upcoming OEM match, US made. http://freedomfightertactical.com/products-page/forends-and-followers/the-freedom-fighter-tactical-922r-compliant-forearm-forend/ That's the one! Thanks bud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cleefurd Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Drooling for your charging handle too. Any idea when those will be available? The completed bolt knobs will be PVD/CVD coated in the same batch as the disconnectors and F.I.S.T. comp's by the 23rd (when we return from the Shot-Show). If the disconnectors don't have the independant engineer's safety sign-off by then, we'll send the other items out in advance and expect them back early February. We can't coat the disconnectors until the safety sign-off approves the selected coating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamat Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 awesome, simply awesome. Thank you VERY MUCH Kip. Can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlton Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Thank you Kip I can not wait for all your products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinkson45 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 WIN!!! Thanks, Kip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saym14 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 if these are as good as his Ti tubes they will be far better than oem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 The great news just keeps flowing, Thanks for all you do Kip, You make the world a better place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamoel Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Kip, do you have any plans of making a better front and rear sight for the M4? I might have misread that in another thread. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Kip, do you have any plans of making a better front and rear sight for the M4? I might have misread that in another thread. Thanks. I'd like Kip to do this, and incorporate it into a bomb proof top rail. Here's how: Remove the factory rail. Then remove the rear sight base. Use the three (3) mounting points from the rear sight to attach the new rail section to the receiver along with the existing five (5) screws that hold the stock top rail in place. The rear section of the replacement rail would have to be machined to accept the stock rear sight base. New mounting hardware would have to be supplied to make up the difference in thickness that would be added to the sandwiched rail section. The raise in height would be kept to a minimum. The target goal would be high enough to establish a sight plain over the top of the solid true spec picatinny rail. The rear sight mounting points are much sturdier than the existing rails are. Note the thickness of the receiver. Note that the screws are threaded into the steel rear sight base from the inside. This alone is a big improvement over the five (5) small screws that are threaded into a thin aluminum receiver. The front sight would also have to be replaced along with a slightly taller front sight shroud to make up for the height increase in the rear sight. The best of both worlds would be a set of sights that are a combo of fiber optic and tritium with high visibility white rings surrounding the lamps for daytime use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamoel Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Yeah, I think that was what I read about. Would be good though to have a version that's compatible with the sidearmor system. With a tritium and fiber combo you wouldn't need white outlines, as the fiber optic would be very visible in daylight. Check out the "lynx" homepage, or Google it, they produce such a combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoAtrox Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think that, if you're going to replace the front sight anyway, why not replace both front and rear with Picatinny rails? Then you can use your AR sights, or whatever else you wish to use. (Personally, for a shotgun like the M1014, I'd prefer pistol-type notched rear sight. I haven't seen one with a Picatinny base, but it would be cool to have that option.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt77 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Any update on these products.... US Made Disconnectors US Made Hammers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR_ICE Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 2-4 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Kip, if you build it, they will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Shotgun Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I was over on FFT's website and it looks like they should be releasing their forends by mid February, if so I am getting it right away! Kip, I cant wait to see what you come out with as for as hammers and disconnects go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven765 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Yay, hammer, disconnector, follower, mag and forend!!! 9 parts with the coll stock, bye bye 922r nonsense, and a better and lighter weapon double bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cleefurd Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 SITREP; While at the Shot Show in Nevada this past January, a seed was planted. Seed sprouted recently. A firm well known and well versed in all things trigger related is accepting this baton. Their name is being with-held to protect the innocent, since their R&D takes time same as "carriercomp's" did. In the mean time however long it takes them you can blame me. Just wanted to ensure progress is being made, But trust me when I say this; I'd rather have what THEY will build, than any other concept, including mine. They're that good, and that's what counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHat Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 (edited) SITREP; I'd rather have what THEY will build, than any other concept, including mine. . Oh, I can certainly second that. Thank you Lord. More adults involved in this 922® issue for the M4 is just what we need. Thanks to you too Kip, Appreciate you quitting before failing. Same for you, but better for us. You are improving your customer service. Edited March 15, 2011 by BigHat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalKoala Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I ask timney to build me one 6 months ago:cool: http://www.timneytriggers.com/trigger-survey.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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