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Comparative analysis of what would happen in your State if you carried a loaded weapon like this. Be it to the store, the range, to work or just wherever...

 

When I travel to other oppressive dictatorships within the United States, I find it hard to imagine that so many people put up with such dictatorial BS for a false sense of safety. I find it hard to imagine a lawful people living under such mistrust from their Government. You are maligned and looked down upon by the Government that you supposedly elected. You are treated as a peasant would.

 

Imagine, what would occur if pulled over carrying this way in California. Go directly to jail, do not collect 200$. Consider the nuances in each States law that establish an ultra fine line between lawful and unlawful.

 

No wonder that 1% of the United States population is in the prison system at this time.

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Man, I'm in Illinois. I'd probably go to jail just for having those spent cartridges in my cup holder.

 

And the worst part about not being able to keep a gun in your car: The Supreme Court has ruled on numerous occasions that a car is, for all intents and purposes, an extension of your home.

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im not really sure on virginias law on carrying guns.. never really checked into it because im too lazy to do 5 minutes of research and read a bunch of stuff.. i just keep the gun a case in the back seat and the ammo in the trunk.. if anybody wants to do a bit of research and inform me of virginias law that'd be nice.. especially if you had a "too long didnt read" version

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I live in Kommiefornia. Most officers would put 2 in my grape on sight if I had mine literally "Riding Shotgun" with me that way. But im sure a SWAT Team would be dispatched and I would have my weapon(s) confiscated and locked up. This state only cares about the homeless and illegals.

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nebraska - in the urban areas - gun locked up - far from reach - ammo completely seperate -- can leave gun in vehicle for 24 hours unattended --

 

we are currently just getting a new bill (maybe) that strengthens the castle doctrine - right now as it stands unless your under immediate threat the law is murky - "couldn't you have left through the back door if they were coming in the front door." - however it is nebraska and we are semi texas in defending what is ours -- has not come up that I remember - usually home invasions are drug related and those invading come prepared to get the stuff and money while those in the place are usually totally unprepared for any sort of defense - doors give way in cheap houses rather quickly. and although I live a quiet life - being older and deaf all my doors are reinforced - no kick or shoulder will do the trick..

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A society built on the principle of individual rights rejects the notion that the state should protect a citizen from himself. Government cannot and should not protect against one's own "unwise" decisions.

 

Freedom is impossible once a government assumes a role in regulating the people's eating, sleeping, drinking, smoking, and exercise habits. Once government believes it has an obligation to improve or protect the people physically it will then claim it can protect them economically and intellectually. It leads to a regimented society, hostile to individuals who cling to the notion that their lives and liberty are their own.

 

Abraham Lincoln pointed out the danger of a vague definition when he said:

 

“The world has never had a good definition of the word liberty, and the American people, just now, are much in want of one. We all declare for liberty, but in using the same word, we do not all mean the same thing. With some the word liberty means for each man to do as he pleases with himself and the product of his labor; while with others the same word may mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the products of other men's labor. Here are two, not only different, but incompatible things called by the same name liberty. It follows that each of the things is, by the perceptive parties, called by two different and incompatible names – liberty and tyranny."

 

The world today, just as in Lincoln's time, is still in need of a good definition for the word liberty. But more than that, we need determined people who believe in and are willing to defend liberty. Those who dare to use the word liberty when promoting violence and tyranny must be clearly exposed. The tyrants must be identified and never confused as friends of freedom. If a battle must occur – which inevitably it must since liberty and tyranny cannot coexist – let it never be supposed that two factions advocating liberty are battling one another. The conflict must be clearly between liberty and tyranny.

 

- Ron Paul

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Here in Taxachusetts, the empty brass the in cup holder are called "ammunition components". An area of about one mile would be secured around your car. All schools and public buildings would go on lockdown. All roads leading into town would be blocked. The State Police bomb squad would be brought in to "determine" the identidy of the objects. The local US Navy disposal team would transport the "items" to the beach under heavy police escort, where they would be blown up for the publics safety. The entire scene will be on all the major TV channels at the 6 PM news including you being dragged away screaming "it's just brass".

 

If the M4 was spotted, the officer would exspend his entire pistol magazine into your body at point blank range, reload and move 45 degrees and repeat. Responding officer's would quickly do the same thing until at least 75+ rounds were shot into you. (The only chance the locals get tp practise shooting). Again, the entire incident will be on the 6PM news with you still sitting in the car wearing your seat belt. The gory parts will be blurred out and a disclaimer indicating you were INTERPOLS #1 wanted terrorist. There're will also be a interview with the officers showing how scared they were and how close they came to losing there lives. The M4 will be melted down because they are banned in this state and besides, real police only use remy 870's.

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Lets be careful not to lump all police officers into the no-brains, freak out around guns, fill you with bullets kind of folks. Its the laws and law makers who are to blame, not those who so bravely enforce them.

 

I'm tired of folks pointing the fingers at the wrong folks. Give a cop a break.

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The law makers would say, it isn't them, it is the constituents whom are to blame. Everyone points the finger to someone else.

 

I believe the thread well established the difference in action/reaction from Law Enforcement in the differing areas. Most of it is in jest. Surely they wouldn't fire more than a mag a piece. ;)

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strangerdanger: Agreed I've been at the range when some requal. I watched in horror as a target came back looking like it was hit with a shotgun, but she only had a pistol at 10m

 

rezarf: I would buy that if officers were held accountable for screwing up and not understanding the laws they are charged with enforcing.

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Washington state, no loaded firearm in vehicle, unless is you concealed pistiol, even then it must be on your person.

 

You cant have a loaded gun in the car in WA because too many lemings would get shot for driving like idiots in the rain and snow. Stupid people never learn, thats why their stupid.

 

Brady Campaign said the same thing about us here in Arizona. How it would be daily blood baths. Here, it is common to see someone open carrying at the gas station or at Walmart. They claimed we'd have shootings in the street like the OK Corral too.

 

When responsible Citizens have chosen to carry a firearm, their demeanor changes. They do not look for fights, they avoid them. They do not escalate situations like road rage. Simply put, an armed society is a polite society.

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To be more serious about Massachusetts, an owner of an M4 would have to be grandfathered (bought and proof of purchase before the ban) and be in possession of a class A large capacity permit. The weapon must be transported in a hard, locked case, in the trunk and unloaded. To be transported as in the photo, you must have FBI or US Deputy Marshal credentials, and a follow up phone call to verify.

 

Back in 1968, I went to Virginia for 2 months training. The number of pick-up trucks out numbered all other vehicles on the road and each p/u truck had a gun rack full of firearms. I was so amazed. What a difference a drive of a few hundred miles can make. What a difference 43 years can make. I often wonder if the year was 1946 and people were trying to push unreasonable gun control laws, what are brave veterans would of had to say about that.

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