Hypergunner Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 ATF exists to make our life miserable! Anyways, I have a brand new M4. 11707 I believe...from Gander. I want to add the Promag collapsable stock and NOT the handgrip. So I am ADDING 1 USA part. What other parts must I change to be compliant if ANY. The stock is made in USA? I am confused because I am adding a USA part and I am seeing that I need 3 parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhoi_fan Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 You need four Made in the USA parts IF you're going to install a full length magazine (which would account for one Made in the USA part) since the ProMag stock accounts for TWO Made in the USA parts (pistol grip and stock). If you're not going to install a FL tube then you can simply install a Made in the USA magazine follower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP44 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 You need four Made in the USA parts IF you're going to install a full length magazine (which would account for one Made in the USA part) since the ProMag stock accounts for TWO Made in the USA parts (pistol grip and stock). If you're not going to install a FL tube then you can simply install a Made in the USA magazine follower. I thought it was 3 U.S parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhoi_fan Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I thought it was 3 U.S parts? 3 US parts if only a FL mag tube, 4 if a 'telescoping stock' is added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypergunner Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Thanks. So if I put a FL mag tube and tele stock, I would need to have 4 US made parts. So in all, I could have USA made 1. follower, 2. tele stock, 3. FL mag tube, and 4.hand guard and be compliant. RIGHT? WAIT, does the US promag stock count for 2 US made parts since I get dinged for it twice? Edited December 31, 2012 by Hypergunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhoi_fan Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Thanks. So if I put a FL mag tube and tele stock, I would need to have 4 US made parts. So in all, I could have USA made 1. follower, 2. tele stock, 3. FL mag tube, and 4.hand guard and be compliant. RIGHT? WAIT, does the US promag stock count for 2 US made parts since I get dinged for it twice? The ProMag stock/PG counts as two parts. The 'collapsing/telescoping' stock is one evil feature and the (more than 5 round capacity) FL tube is another evil feature. The M4 comes from Benelli with one evil feature (other than being semi-auto), i.e. the PG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypergunner Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Thanks Sukkoi so for post #5, is it correct in what I wrote and about to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhoi_fan Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Thanks Sukkoi so for post #5, is it correct in what I wrote and about to do? If you used all the items you listed including the ProMag stock and ProMag handguards you'd have five US parts and you'd be gtg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigatecon Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 If you used all the items you listed including the ProMag stock and ProMag handguards you'd have five US parts and you'd be gtg. Right, since the butt stock and pistol grip count as two parts if you are using the c-stock, you would be able to use the OEM handguards if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP44 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 3 US parts if only a FL mag tube, 4 if a 'telescoping stock' is added. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTrooper Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 This "stuff" will give you a headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsn124 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 3 US parts if only a FL mag tube, 4 if a 'telescoping stock' is added. Sorry if this has been answered or obvious. If we took a factory new 11707 and swapped the pistol grip stock with a standard fixed synthetic (non-pistol grip) Benelli stock would we still have to replace three other parts with US made parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigatecon Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Only if you want to swap out the standard 5 round mag tube with a full length 7 rounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTrooper Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Sorry if this has been answered or obvious. If we took a factory new 11707 and swapped the pistol grip stock with a standard fixed synthetic (non-pistol grip) Benelli stock would we still have to replace three other parts with US made parts? No, you're not changing the total parts count with this swap. You are swapping out a 1-piece stock for another 1-piece stock so there is zero net change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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