kenw111 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 8 hours ago, shootingsight said: LOL. From Bud's: "Thank you for contacting us here at Budsgunshop.com! We greatly appreciate your patronage. Unfortunately, we would not be able to honor an older price." No worries, a used one will pop up sooner or later. older price???? it was literally 5 days ago ROFL ROFL!!! they DO SUCK when it comes to calling them on the phone !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy phil Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 On 10/8/2019 at 7:49 AM, Sigma05 said: I’m also running this one, but I didn’t get it from Botach since they have the worst customer service. The original shape of the factory one is that way because it’s designed also as a disassembly tool. That’s why I chose this one, because it retains the same functions. Yes fk botach. Those slimes failed to ship even after giving me tracking. Then claimed i was getting a refund which never transpired. I think my credit card co finally ate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcrigger2007 Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 Maybe Benelli will come out with their own upgraded version ,but i doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingsight Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) So here is what I'm playing with so far. I got Grade 8 alloy bolts, which I'm turning down so they have 1/4" of thread, and then are a shaft. Thought is I'll turn 3/4" hollow aluminum handles that are cup shaped on the CNC lathe, so these alloy bolts will thread through from the inside, and I'll have alloy steel shafts with aluminum handles. People who want weight savings, or want anodized colors, can get it without sacrificing the strength of the shaft. I had hoped that the larger diameter would get down to the thread base, and it didn't, so it looks a little amateurish (which is fine, because I'm not being paid to do this). I'm not going to worry for these prototypes. I might make a few where I just go a little deeper, to clean it up. Ultimately, I'll do the shafts on a screw machine, so they look decent. I'll dress a grinding wheel to create the radiused cut, and add the 3 cuts on a surface grinder. The head of these bolts is 1/2", so I have 7075 bar that is 3/4". 1/2" hole in one end means it will have 1/8" walls, so I can add a few grooves, or a slight hourglass cut. or maybe some knurling. If anyone has ideas for what they would like to see and/or can sketch it up, post a picture or just describe your ideas, I might be able to try them out. Edited October 26, 2019 by shootingsight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingsight Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Here it is with a first grip. I had 45 min till I was required for Family Dinner, so I banged out a handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeketheplumber Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 11:13 AM, StrangerDanger said: I usually use a stainless TTI one. I don’t care for knurling on the knob since it can cut up my hand when I’m going fast. Some have issues with the TTI knob over inserting. I’ve never experienced this on several M4’s and dozen of clients’ shotguns. I had a carriercomp knob, and it was a masterpiece of engineering. It was knurled though and would chew up my fingers when running it hard. They’re practically vaporware these days. When found they go for an insane premium price of like 450 dollars. Lighter than the stock handle by a few grams too. The titanium FFT bolt handle gets chewed up over time by the detent in the bolt carrier. Steel wins over titanium in durability. So the notches the detent fits into get chewed up and eventually the bolt handle will just fall out. Is CarrierComp still open for business? I ordered a tube 2 weeks ago but never received any info on the follower/spring. I also sent a few emails and contact requests through the websites but haven't heard anything back. It also looks like the address is "permanently closed" on Google: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kip+Carrier+10031+Candlestick+Lane+Pensacola,+Florida+32514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Let me see if I can find anything out. shootingsight - I’m not really sure what I want out of a charging handle if I’m being honest. Since everyone wants the carriercomp design, I’d copy that one in materials and style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeketheplumber Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 thanks, StrangerDanger -- I'm really hoping I didn't miss the boat on Kip's quality. I've heard nothing but positive things about his work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lossiter Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 On 10/26/2019 at 5:39 PM, shootingsight said: If anyone has ideas for what they would like to see and/or can sketch it up, post a picture or just describe your ideas, I might be able to try them out. I was very much impressed with the 1/2 inch steel version from Freedom Fighter Tactical in terms of the fit and ergonomics. . .until it came flying out of the weapon and onto the floor at around the 70 round mark. This was with a Benelli M4 14-inch using Winchester #1 buckshot 2 3/4 inch shells (16 pellets). I would personally like to see something like this, but which is bet-your-ass reliable in a self-defense context. https://freedomfightertactical.com/collections/benelli-m4-tactical-shotgun-parts-and-accessories/products/the-freedom-fighter-tactical-half-inch-diameter-steel-tactical-charging-handle-for-benelli-m4-shotgun Whatever you make, above all else, it has to NOT spontaneously eject itself from the bolt carrier when firing the weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 20 hours ago, Lossiter said: I was very much impressed with the 1/2 inch steel version from Freedom Fighter Tactical in terms of the fit and ergonomics. . .until it came flying out of the weapon and onto the floor at around the 70 round mark. This was with a Benelli M4 14-inch using Winchester #1 buckshot 2 3/4 inch shells (16 pellets). I would personally like to see something like this, but which is bet-your-ass reliable in a self-defense context. Whatever you make, above all else, it has to NOT spontaneously eject itself from the bolt carrier when firing the weapon. That seems to be the sticking point with these AM bolt handles....they are not reliable in that, the detents are not done correctly so that they don't eject or fall out of the bolt carrier. There also may be a question of proper steel hardness/wear resistance as well. I happen to like the OEM handle both in design and aesthetically. The only change I would make to the OEM handle is to make it a wee bit larger but, not very much. It seems by the pics in this thread, someone has done that. The question is if they do the detent cuts correctly to prevent unwanted disassembly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPC Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) Edit Edited November 2, 2019 by RPC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcrigger2007 Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 Is Carriercomp still around ? Their Charging handle looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Carriercomp does their mag tubes, but doesn’t seem like they want to do the charging handles anymore. I even offered to buy like 500 at a time, and they weren’t interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA Comp Featureless Human Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Has anyone used the Arms Unlimited handle? https://www.armsunlimited.com/AU-Large-Bolt-Charging-Handle-for-Benelli-M4-p/lb-m4-bch.htm Looks very similar to the KZ handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTycoon Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, CA Comp Featureless Human said: Has anyone used the Arms Unlimited handle? https://www.armsunlimited.com/AU-Large-Bolt-Charging-Handle-for-Benelli-M4-p/lb-m4-bch.htm Looks very similar to the KZ handle. I have been using one for over a year. No issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'zaster Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I am running the Arms unlimited handle. So far so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBWB Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I know this is an old thread, but wondering if anyone has purchased from Arms Unlimited lately? Some of the reviews scare me, but they have the charging at a really good sale price right now. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigofirearms Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I got my Trijicon SRO from there last month. Arrived in four days from the order date. BOTACH is the sketchier one, I use my LE friend’s account to order from as apparently LE customers get different treatment and priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznwhip Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, DEBWB said: I know this is an old thread, but wondering if anyone has purchased from Arms Unlimited lately? Some of the reviews scare me, but they have the charging at a really good sale price right now. Thanks I've bought a few stuff from them without issue. Most recently last week a surefire x300u and took only a few days to get shipping info. They're GTG. Edited July 17, 2020 by aznwhip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNtadpole Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 14 hours ago, DEBWB said: I know this is an old thread, but wondering if anyone has purchased from Arms Unlimited lately? Some of the reviews scare me, but they have the charging at a really good sale price right now. Thanks Well I just ordered one too since the price was right. It's pretty hard to beat that price. I hope they're decent. Thanks for posting this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdog19 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I give Unlimited Arms a thumbs-up as well. Ordered a few items 1.5 months ago when no one else had items in-stock. Best price I could find on in-stock items and good shipping. Also ordered the charging handle from BOTACH and they defied their poor reputation with good price and fast shipping (I was surprised)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClackClackBAM Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Personally I'm a fan of Briley charging handles. They look great and are fully functional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA Comp Featureless Human Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I was running some shitty target ammo the other day shooting clays and I've finally had it with the OEM bolt handle. I just ordered the UA handle. $10 and free shipping is hard to beat. Glad it's working well for the guys that have been using it. Thanks for the feedback. Will report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClackClackBAM Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Personally I'm a fan of the Briley handles, as I have one on my SBE3 and M4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNtadpole Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Those Arms Unlimited charging handles seem sweet. I just got mine. I really appreciate the extra finger real estate. All for ten bucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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