MNtadpole Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Hey, I'm currently on the search for a complete Benelli M4 trigger group. Every location online appears to be out of stock. I was wondering if the M1, M2, M3 trigger group is the same as the M4, and if they are interchangeable? They look very similar, but since I'm not physically comparing the two, its hard to tell. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 They’re not the same for the frames, but some of the small parts are interchangeable. I know I have two stripped oem frames in the shop. One is an aluminum frame that was NP3+ plated and another is a plastic one that is Cerakoted dark earth. I probably have the majority of the small parts that go in them. The small parts are all NP3 plated. I can look tonight to see exactly what is needed if you’re interested in either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNtadpole Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 @StrangerDanger Absolutely, please! I was thinking of piecing the parts together at some online distributors, but the price to do so was crazy high, compared to buying the whole trigger group assembly. Much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Good deal. I won’t be home until 8pm tonight to see what I have. I imagine you’d be more interested in the NP3+ frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Thought of another option, you could purchase the A&S Engineering frame and we could source most of the small parts to put into it. The black color may fit your color scheme better. I’m good at talking myself out of sales! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNtadpole Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 @StrangerDanger NP3+ sounds intriguing! It's pretty funny, I was referred to you on the AR15.com forum. Apparently you've made quite a name for yourself in both communities! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNtadpole Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) @StrangerDanger I was looking at those trigger guards too. I'm open to all options honestly. My master plan was to try and send a trigger group out to Briley's for a trigger job, but I didn't want to be without a complete trigger group assembly. What's more, there was a forum member on here that apparently had his sent trigger group lost enroute to Brileys...yikes! Edited May 8, 2020 by MNtadpole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 It’s scary mailing parts. I thankfully haven’t lost any, but I have had a few take some weird detours and get lost for a few weeks. Anyone who has gotten packages from me knows how I zip tie them into the box and make sure nothing says gun parts on the box or shipping label. If it’s going to Bob’s Guns, I’m only listing Bob’s. The A&S frame would be the best choice for your build. The machining is better than on the OEM frames. The Briley trigger will work just as well in any frame you put them in. Then you can add whatever aftermarket parts you want into that frame like the TTI or FFT carrier or an oversized safety button. The A&S frame will also count as a US made part. Here and at AR15.com I get hit up a lot if the Benelli is mentioned. A lot of the old threads still pop up when doing google searches, which leads them to me. Usually I can walk someone thru fixing a problem. If not, having a FFL license helps a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I have three of the trigger frames. One NP3+, one Nickel Boron and burnt bronze exterior, and one plastic one painted in Benelli Dark Earth. I have all the internal parts except for the pin that retains the safety and OEM trigger. I still think you'd be best served with the A&S Engineering frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNtadpole Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 @StrangerDanger Just for clarity, can you point out which numbers you don't have in the attached diagram? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickRope Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 6 and 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Correct. And you don’t need 21 if going with A&S since they use their own supplied pin. The rear trigger pin is also proprietary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNtadpole Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 @StrangerDanger Thank you for the clarification! What do you feel would be a fair price for me to take those parts off your hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Sorry it took so long to price things out. Been busy this weekend. The parts were sourced from Brownells, and applicable parts were then plated thru Robar. I think your plan is to buy the A&S Engineering frame? If so, you’ll get the rear trigger pin and the safety detent pin. You’d be best server buying aftermarket triggers, disconnectors, hammers, carriers and safety buttons. Aftermarket springs for the trigger/carrier/hammer can be purchased from FFT - but they aren’t cheap. 2. Disconnector Pin: 7.99 3. Disconnector Spring: 8.99 4. Disconnector Plunger: 9.99 (NP3) 5. OEM Disconnector: 33.99 (NP3) 6. OEM trigger (Don’t have one) 7. Trigger Spring: 10.99 8. Carrier Spring: 10.99 9. Carrier Plunger: 11.99 (NP3) 10. Hammer Spring: 11.99 11. Hammer Cap: 9.99 (NP3) 12. OEM Hammer: 60.99 (NP3) 13. Breech Latch: 19.99 (NP3) 14. Breech Latch Pin: 11.99 (NP3) 15. Snap Ring: 11.99 (NP3) 16. OEM Carrier: 55.96 (Cerakote black) 17. Trigger Bushing: 15.99 (NP3) 18. Shell Release Lever: 36.99 (NP3) 19. OEM Aluminum Trigger Frame: 200.00 (NP3) 20. Trigger Pin: 18.99 (OEM frame needs two, A&S needs one) (NP3) 21. OEM safety: 24.99 (NP3 and black Cerakote) 22. Safety Plunger Retainer Pin: Don’t have one 23. Shell Release Spring: 11.99 24. Safety Plunger: 20.99 (NP3) 25. Safety Plunger Spring: Don’t have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNtadpole Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 @StrangerDanger I apologize for taking forever to get back to you on this topic. I was supposed to have gone to the range Tuesday to try out my new M4 for the first time, but that didn't happen until yesterday. It was a wonderful experience, but I apparently didn't bring enough ammo, as it felt like it lasted 2 minutes. I'm going to attempt to directly message you about moving forward with these parts. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 No problem! I remember that feeling with my first M4! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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