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Question about Trijicon dual illuminated reflex dot size .


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What ranges are you planning to be shooting at?

7.0 MOA = 7 inches at 100 yards, 3.5 inches at 50 yards, 1.75 inches at 25 yards, etc., all perfectly suitable for a shotgun.

Quicker acquisition with a larger red dot.

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12 hours ago, Sukhoi_fan said:

What ranges are you planning to be shooting at?

7.0 MOA = 7 inches at 100 yards, 3.5 inches at 50 yards, 1.75 inches at 25 yards, etc., all perfectly suitable for a shotgun.

Quicker acquisition with a larger red dot.

I would say that 25yds to 75yds would be about right in my present situation. I have the rm06 and i like it a lot. Just looking to get away from battery red dots . I haven't seen any articles about extreme heat or extreme cold on the dual illuminated red dots. I just may give it a try if i could find one with all that's going on.

Thanks for the reply

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I shoot a RM05/9moa dot on one of my 3-gun M1's.  I've got RM04/7moa RMR's on other guns.  To my eye it's impossible to tell the difference in size between the two.  There are a couple of issues with the dual illuminated models.  Each issue has to do with ambient lighting.  First, when shooting in direct, unobstructed mid-day sunlight, the dot flares a great deal.  Second, when shooting from a covered/shady or darkened position out into a bright, sunlit area, the dot is almost invisible against something like a bright white painted steel target.  I've taken care of the first problem with a black sharpie, inking over the light intake area.  That works great in the outside scenarios since the ink is opaque enough to transmit sufficient dot-illuminating light even on a cloudy day.  However, that fix exacerbates the second problem scenario shooting from a darkened area out into a bright light area.  Since most of my competition stuff is out in the bright sun (Florida), the sharpie fix works like a charm to reduce the dot flare.  But that's just me.  Your choice will depend on the type of shooting you intend to do.

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10 hours ago, truckcop said:

I shoot a RM05/9moa dot on one of my 3-gun M1's.  I've got RM04/7moa RMR's on other guns.  To my eye it's impossible to tell the difference in size between the two.  There are a couple of issues with the dual illuminated models.  Each issue has to do with ambient lighting.  First, when shooting in direct, unobstructed mid-day sunlight, the dot flares a great deal.  Second, when shooting from a covered/shady or darkened position out into a bright, sunlit area, the dot is almost invisible against something like a bright white painted steel target.  I've taken care of the first problem with a black sharpie, inking over the light intake area.  That works great in the outside scenarios since the ink is opaque enough to transmit sufficient dot-illuminating light even on a cloudy day.  However, that fix exacerbates the second problem scenario shooting from a darkened area out into a bright light area.  Since most of my competition stuff is out in the bright sun (Florida), the sharpie fix works like a charm to reduce the dot flare.  But that's just me.  Your choice will depend on the type of shooting you intend to do.

  Thanks, I was just planning on using it for short ranges. Sounds like i maybe better off using an rmr with a battery. The batteries do last a long time .

  Thank you for your input.

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I never cared for the larger dot size optics. At a 100 yards, a 6 moa dot will cover 6” of the target. Where as a 1 moa will cover 1” of the target. I never found the larger dots to be easier or faster to find particularly on a rifle or shotgun that has an established cheekweld. 
 

On optics like the RMR, I can’t really tell the difference between the 1 and the 3.5 moa dot size. 

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^^^ The dot size one views in the optic of various mfg.'s does not necessarily reflect the MOA representation, i.e. a 3.5 MOA dot viewed is not 1/2 the visual size of a 7 MOA dot/ triangle viewed.....thru the optic. The "red / orange / green dot-triangle " that is viewed is merely a representation of a 3.5" v. 7" impact probability at 100 yards. IF you take a 3.5 MOA optic and a 7 MOA optic and view a 6" plate at 100 yards, the 7 MOA dot will not obscure the view of the 6" plate; you would however be able to more accurately place your shot on the 6" plate with a 3.5 MOA viewed dot if the firearm was capable of that accuracy.

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This 14" Wilson Combat Scattergun Technologies has a 8 MOA RMR that is more than adequate at expected range of engagements for a SBS. The  factory barrel has been customized by  Vang Comp to  extend the forcing  cone and porting.

The M4 14" Entry is just as good with a 2 MOA Aimpoint, a bit quicker shot-shot due to ARGO auto system. IF I need a 100M slug shot with these boys, I picked up the wrong tool for the task. Just sayin'. 

Love the Asgaard Defense forward shell holders auto or pump.

 

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Stick with the battery run rmr especially the auto adjust ones. As stated above the dual illuminated rmr is fine in full sun or full shade but if you try to shoot from shade to full sun you won't be happy.

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