Ben elLes Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 So Just received my charging handle and it’s basically flush with the side of the gun. I can’t even fit a piece of paper under it. Can see wear marks just from racking it a few times so I’m not going to use it. Sadly now that I have tried another one I do like how much nicer it is in comparison to the OEM. Looking for recommendations on how to fix this one or one I should blow another 80 bucks on. (Can see wear marks that rubbed off in the picture, as well as one that wouldn’t after handle was removed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doge Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Yikes. Is that a Freedom Fighter Tactical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben elLes Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) Ya, ordered awhile ago, just received. Read the mixed reviews lately while waiting and figured it wouldn’t happen to me. What ever least I knew better than to go out and fire it. More likely my unluckyness with the bolt carrier than the design? Although an extra 16th would maybe make it work for all of us Edited October 5, 2021 by Ben elLes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doge Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Contact them and let them know. Too many M4s have fallen victim to this shit design. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK02 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 11 hours ago, Ben elLes said: So Just received my charging handle and it’s basically flush with the side of the gun. I can’t even fit a piece of paper under it. Can see wear marks just from racking it a few times so I’m not going to use it. Sadly now that I have tried another one I do like how much nicer it is in comparison to the OEM. Looking for recommendations on how to fix this one or one I should blow another 80 bucks on. (Can see wear marks that rubbed off in the picture, as well as one that wouldn’t after handle was removed) I would be willing to make you a much nicer one that I guarantee will fit tight and not touch the receiver. It would be polished 17-4 like I’ve posted recently. I’m not sure how hard it is to test fit a charging handle in a gun before you ship out junk, but FFT is a joke. PM me if you’re interested. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_308 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 For the record I just installed this exact charging handle yesterday and found the same thing- BARELY any space between, and no way am I going to shoot it with it that close. What a waste. I am testing the Taran tactical handle now, at least there is no worries about it rubbing. . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznwhip Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I recall a thread about this already. FFT refused to admit anything was wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Just curious, are you pushed past the detent in the bolt handle? You can over insert the handles since there isn’t a stop present that limits the depth. When you rotate the handle, you should feel it engage and disengage the three notches on the handle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Buy a rx arms one.In my opinion there best out there now.I have two 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben elLes Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 8:33 AM, BK02 said: I would be willing to make you a much nicer one that I guarantee will fit tight and not touch the receiver. It would be polished 17-4 like I’ve posted recently. I’m not sure how hard it is to test fit a charging handle in a gun before you ship out junk, but FFT is a joke. PM me if you’re interested. Looks and works great. Plenty of room for my piece of mind. Thank you for making this for me 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetSweeper56 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Yup, here is mine from bk02; looks great, fits well and won't rub. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK02 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 13 hours ago, Ben elLes said: Looks and works great. Plenty of room for my piece of mind. Thank you for making this for me 12 hours ago, StreetSweeper56 said: Yup, here is mine from bk02; looks great, fits well and won't rub. Awesome, glad they fit and function fine on both of your examples! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben elLes Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 I got a refund on the original handle from FFT awhile back. Just thought I would throw that out there. Still enjoying the privately made one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RxArms Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 7:46 AM, StrangerDanger said: Just curious, are you pushed past the detent in the bolt handle? You can over insert the handles since there isn’t a stop present that limits the depth. When you rotate the handle, you should feel it engage and disengage the three notches on the handle. This can easily be designed to stop the handle from over inserting. I have made this design on mine, it cannot be overinserted, it is simple engineering where the handle tapers to the pin, when properly designed the handle cannot go too far (even when the detent is not engaged). Surprising that some manufacturers continue to have issues with over insertion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach1 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Does anyone have any feedback on either of GG&G's charging handles? They have a slotted one (GGG-2013) and their regular one (GGG-1032). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraBG Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I have the GG&G without the slots and like it a lot. Fits well, doesn't rub anywhere and just works. I've read that some people feel the knurling is too aggressive, but I like it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAUS Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I also have the GG&G and like it a lot. It's a "rotating" design, i.e. the bolt handle can rotate freely. Some people might not like it. But, it makes more sense for over-sized bolt handles on Benelli M4. Since M4 doesn't have a locking mechanism on the bolt handle, a "non-rotating" over-sized bolt handle could be rotated and pulled out accidentally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'zaster Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I have a GGG oversized handle that I found has enough side-to-side play when installed that it can rub slightly on the receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAUS Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, D'zaster said: I have a GGG oversized handle that I found has enough side-to-side play when installed that it can rub slightly on the receiver. Really? Mine is ok. Did you get it before GG&G changed the design for M4 specifically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'zaster Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 It was discounted on DVOR so I decided to give it try. I suspect it was produced before the m4 specific handle was available but I don't know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightt Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 hmm maybe that explains why my newly acquired m4 is all eaten up the coating in that area... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dawg Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I’ve had the same problem with the one from FFT. I communicated with them and they gave their song and dance. I’ve been around shotguns for a very long time and have never seen such a tight fit and lack of spacing. I just opted to eat it and purchase two for taran. Needless to say my business has navigated towards other vender’s. The said fact about FFT is that they won’t cowboy up to their poor design. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben elLes Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Devil Dawg said: I’ve had the same problem with the one from FFT. I communicated with them and they gave their song and dance. I’ve been around shotguns for a very long time and have never seen such a tight fit and lack of spacing. I just opted to eat it and purchase two for taran. Needless to say my business has navigated towards other vender’s. The said fact about FFT is that they won’t cowboy up to their poor design. Yeah if I hadn’t had a picture of rub marks on two different shotguns I don’t know how it would have turned out. Likely would have been eating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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