pbro21 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 I just bought a new SBE II last weekend, and after taking it to the range noticed it patterns a little high. Any suggestions for a quick fix? I have dove and goose seasons coming shortly, and would like to have more of a 60/40 pattern. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhen Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Mine patterns perfectly, aim at the base of the target and it lifts perfectly into the target area. Change the drop shims to raise or lower pattern. mudhen - CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbro21 Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 I read that a larger front bead will bring the point of impact down to where I need it to be. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, how do I go about removing the stock bead to install a new one. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbro21 Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 Anybody have an answer for this? Sorry about being pushy, but I'm getting anxious with the season right around the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhen Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 I don't know what you are talking about, so I've have no reply. I line the midbead up behind the front bead. Can't see what difference it would make to make the Benelli front bead larger I guess you don't want to use the shim kit in your SBE II? Removing the Benelli front bead is difficult - grasp with a pliers and twist in a counter-clockwise manner. Then buy a new bead and put back in a clockwise manner. It's either 3-56 or 6-48, both short shank. www.brownells.com has literally 1000's of bead in stock. mudhen - CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FN_FAL Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 In reference to your inital post pbro21: Are you using the same ammo consistently? Various brands can pattern different outta the same firearm. What about distance? As you probably know the further you shoot the lower your groups are and vice versa if your shooting closer than usual (pattern high). A quick and simple fix for a firearm that you POSITIVELY know is going to shoot high, is to aim low. Its definitely quick and simple but consistency is bound to suffer. Some of the above factors seem so obvious, yet I've seen the various examples ruin a shooters day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbro21 Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 Thanks for the replys. I have purchased a taller front bead, and will replace that as soon as it comes in to see what difference it makes. For me it is easier to replace a front bead (the stock one doesn't collect much light anyway), seeing as I know very little about adjusting shim to fit. If I still have problems I will take the gun to the gunsmith and have the shim adjusted. FN-FAL it was a pattern at 40 yards, and I tried many different shells including lead, steel and hevi-shot. I'm pretty sure the gun in general is hitting high. Thanks again for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FN_FAL Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Hey pbro21 for the amount of coin you dropped on your new firearm (I'm guessing well over a grand) I would go back to the dealer. Don't fool around with a new front sight. You could mar the barrel (decreasing the value), who knows. Call your dealer see what they'll do, last resort send it to Benelli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhen Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 This has got to be a practical joke The SBE II comes with a great cast & drop kit. Use it for god's sake Take a friggin socket wrench and remove the stock and change the drop setting. I think they come with C from the factory. Try D before you send it anywhere. I disagree with not changing beads though - I have done it many times - sometimes several times a year - no big deal. mudhen - CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FN_FAL Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 mudhen, I have never swapped beads on a Benelli. I was going on your post that it was "difficult." Now you contradict yourself by saying its "no big deal"??? I should of never stuck my nose in anyways being as I don't even own an SBE II. I do agree with your advice on the shims. Enough...Back to my hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coloradoryan Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 PBro21, Mudhen is giving you solid advice. If you are hitting high you are likely seeing too much rib, put the next drop shim in and take a look down the rib, it should be flat so that you dont see much of the top of the rib but the bead still perfectly. Its not hard, and doesn't require a gunsmith ( thats why benelli includes them). 15 minutes at the range with your shim kit and you will be ready to rock A larger front site will make the gun shoot a bit lower because they are taller. They are very easy to install as they just screw in. Unscrew the old one with some non maring pliers or adjustable wrench, put a dab of NON permenant locktite on the thread of the new one and screw it in ( it really is idiot proof ). There are also some stick on ones out there as well as clip on ones. ( I personally like the screw in ones but its all personal choice) [ 08-17-2005, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: Coloradoryan ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhen Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 As to the difficult part - read my post again - then read between the lines - do I have to spell everything out? Donnie says vacuum.....green quarters..... mudhen - CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK JACK Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I know it's a little late, but I am going to throw my two cents in anyway I have to agree with mudhen, I have owned several Benellis and I aways change the front sight and the drop. Its takes all of 15 min. I prefer the HI-VIZ FLASHPOINT SIGHT, and the A drop. Good luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drundel Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 **** change the bloody shims. plus doesn't goose season open around the 15th of sept in MD? you have a frickin' month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbro21 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 I changed the shims in the gun and bought a new front bead. Mudhen it comes with B from the factory, and there is not a D choice. I tried them all and found the Z drop to be the best. I will take it out and pattern it tonight. I'm not sure where you get your information Drundel, but goose season in my part of Maryland opens September 1st with an 8 bird limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brice hensley Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Mudhen donnies pants are tight!!! Man i thought getting benelli to replace my barrel was a bad experience! lol my 12 year old son took care of the shims in his berreta 20 last year and then installed a sims pad. No brainer. I use C my sbe. brice skiebuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhen Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 You are the man Brice! Chicken pot, chicken pot, chicken pot piiiiiiiie...... mudhen - CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbro21 Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 Patterned the gun last night with both 3" BB steel, and the 2 3/4" Rem Heavy dove. Shot the steel at 40 yds with a pattern of 60/40, and the same for the dove loads at 30. Thanks for all the information guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootem Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 When I got my SBEII about 13 months it shot about 14 inches high out of the box. I shimmed the gun and got it down to 12 inches high. I sent the gun into Benelli; they sent it back with a bigger bead!! This does absolutely no good. POI has not changed, I point a shotgun I don't aim it. When I shoot I don't even know there are beads on the gun. Benelli service said yes the gun shot 12 inches high but with the new bead and aiming the gun it only shot 9 inches high. I complained to the service manager and he told me after hunting season to contact him and Benelli would do what ever it took to make it right. Well after several e-mails and 2 unanswered voice messages I gave up and just lived with it. I like a gun to shot high but this was a little too much. My opinion changing the bead does nothing. This is the 4th SBE I have owned and my son has owned 3. He bought his about 2 weeks after I bought mine. His patterned perfectly out of the box. He or I would shoot nothing else!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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