MENeelz Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Lots of discussion here about which profile of Benelli shotgun we can buy or assemble where, and what rules apply or don't apply. If one of these antigun socialist numbnuts, like Senator Clinton or Senator O'bama, (is he a black Irishman?) manages to get elected President of the US, and we keep the current democrat Congress in power, we're gonna have lots bigger problems than those to deal with. The entire USA could end up like California, New York or Illinois for hunters and shooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MENeelz Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Rudy G. or Mitt Romney wouldn't be a whole lot better from an RKBA perspective. Folks, we need to get serious about fixing our Congress this next election. That may be more important than who gets elected President. Find pro hunting, pro 2A Congressional candidates and vote for them. Support them. Help them win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourdough44 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I don't have a favorite anywhere near the top tier but as far as the 2nd amendment I'll take any republican over Obama or Billary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Bore Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I am in agreement with all the above. It seems the US is up the creek without a paddle. Do you think it is possible for the ballot to have a box for None of the Above? It is truly sad for the US. Watching the evening news is a good way to loose your dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Red Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Please don't forget that our (or at least my) favorite Republican President Reagan, sold all the class-3 shooters down the toilet back in 86. Anyone would be willing to screw us over if they despirately wanted something else passed - the old Washington horse trading game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MENeelz Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 The solution to many of these problems is to elect a freedom friendly Congress. If we had freedom respecting good citizens representing us in our legislature, idiotic laws would not get written in the first place, let alone passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdaniel377 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 To reply on whether Barack Obama is a black irishman or not,the answer is NO! Barack Obama is a black MUSLIM,thru and thru.When he was sworn into office he would not swear on the bible,he was sworn in on the Book Of Koran!May be spelled Kuran,not sure,anyhow that is the Muslim bible!He wont put his hand on his heart when the National Anthem is being sung,and wont salute Old Glory!He should not have ever been allowed to be in the office where he is now!I got an email explaining what his background was,really bothers me that anyone in these United States would even think of voting for him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novaking Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Illinois is not like californa or newyork. I know we can't carry. But other than that Illinois is not so bad. novaking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teufel-hunden Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 The good news is that neither Billary nor O' Sama can win the general election. The better news is that the mentally challenged lunatic lefties are actually dumb enough to nominate one of them. The only question is which GOP canidate will we be stuck with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Bore Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 pdw4137 If I could ask you please save all of us the time and keystrokes and post links disproving all the disinformation about O'Bama. I'm sure many would like to click and see. I have received many emails also, and as you say you can't believe the written word and since most of us here don't personally know you how could we take your word for it. I know you are entitled to your opinion, as is anyone. At this point I don't have a clue who I'm voting for but I do know who I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdaniel377 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 When Obama was sworn in there was a big stink in the news about him not using the bible,was a few years back. Who is Barack Obama? Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two y ears in a Catholic school. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school." Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his, stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking Major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama hasm joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Kuran (Their equivalency to our Bible, but very different beliefs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I don't know who is the right one for the job, but we can't be so narrow minded to remember that the country was in such better shape when Clinton was the man. If you are a Dem or Rep it does not take a rocket scientist to see that Bush is a clown. Think about this. The only thing Clinton did wrong was he got caught between two Bushes. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdaniel377 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 You are also forgetting that Bill Clinton gave away the Panama Canal,a very important route for ships coming into and out of the commerce lanes for the US. You are also forgetting that he is also the one that signed into law the Assault weapon ban that President Bush let sunset. You are also forgetting that he is the one that could have signed the executive order to"sanction" Osama Bin Laden,before he had the chance to mastermind the plans that killed thousands of people on American soil,did untold billions of dollars of damage,seperated many children from parents that were killed in the towers,not to mention the many thousands more that could have been killed if it werent for the heroes that fought to take over the other jet before it could reach its target! President Bush isnt perfect,noone is,but then can you imagine how hard it would be to get something done when a whole other party that controls one whole side of the government is just waiting to twist anything you try to accomplish.This happens in both parties,both are guilty of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MENeelz Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 Clinton signed the AWB. Janet Reno was his enforcer. She sent tanks and flamethrowers to kill Americans whose religion and behavior bothered her. Neither of the Bushs have been friends of the second Amendment either. GWB has allowed his justice department to file an erroneous and misleading brief in the Parker v. DC case, stating that if the Supreme Court finds that the second amendment protects an individual right it will call into question all other anti gun laws, and so therefore asking them not to determine such. Father Bush was at the helm when the FBI sniper shot Randy Weaver's wife for no good reason except spurious charges against Weaver for gun law violations. Weaver was acquitted and the US taxpayers paid him and his daughters 2.3 million dollars in damages but that didn't bring his wife back to life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Bore Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Bush a clown? Yes, he's done things wrong. Better when Willie was in office? Maybe. That depends on how one looks at everything. "The only thing Clinton did wrong was he got caught between two Bushes. " On top of all the above lets not forget NAFTA. You go Girl Hillary next? Not for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MENeelz Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 Bush a clown? Yes, he's done things wrong. Better when Willie was in office? Maybe. That depends on how one looks at everything. "The only thing Clinton did wrong was he got caught between two Bushes. " On top of all the above lets not forget NAFTA. You go Girl Hillary next? Not for me! A quick check of GDP statistics will show that the "Clinton economy" didn't hold a candle to the "Bush economy". Note that Bush came out of the gate with 9-11 cutting our economic hamstrings. I put both "economies" in quotes because Presidents don't make the economy robust. We hard working people do that, and we do it best when the government gets the **** out of our way. Congresses make laws and raise taxes, Presidents don't. We need a freedom friendly Congress. That's more important than who is President. The Congress we have now is the most inept, idiotic,abominable collection of human debris ever to be seated in the Capitol building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Bore Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 MENeelz Since you quoted me I just wanted to say I agree with you. With my sarcasm thats what I meant when I said it depends on how one looks at things. I can't imagine what this country will be like for our children and grandchildren if this downward spiral continues much longer. You are correct in my view also that the Congress needs to be totally cleaned out but the President is also part of that Congress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Bore Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Heres a site that may be of interest for those that haven't seen it yet. http://www.wqad.com/Global/link.asp?L=259460 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnywitt Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Not to wiz on your post, but you are completely misinformed by the email you mentioned. Although I am not a big fan, Obama is actually closer to PRO 2A rights than any Democrat in recent history. He is also a devout Christian, and has been for his entire life. He was sworn in using a Christian Bible. I have seen him sing along with the National Anthem, and lead the Pledge of Alegence, hand over heart, on more than one occassion. ALL of this is verified with a few keystrokes. Remember, just because something is written, does not mean that it is so. It is quite possible that Obama may be the best chance we Gun enthusiasts have, given the current field of candidates, and that unlikely chance for a Republican to be elected. It may come down to the unfortunate reality that a vote for Obama will be the only thing to keep the Clintons out of the White House. I don't like it any better than anyone else here, but if it comes to it, I believe it is better to act/vote based on known facts, than blind allegence. It is every man's responsibility to disseminate disinformation before contributing blindly to its proliferation. Politicians are politicians and that is why it is up to US to be diligent and keep the FACTS straight, and readilly available, whether the facts are in alignment with our own individual, community, or societal positions, or not. JM2C. I think it is possible that the only way BATFE is going to make an issue about 922r, is if members of the gun community keep pressing them to actually designate the yet to be fully structured interpretations of its wording. Ask a question so many times, and it is human nature to answer it, even if the queried individual/agency has no desire to provide an answer. Do I own domestic parts? Yes! The ones that make my gun better adapted to its intended purpose. When there are enough parts to complete a compliant conversion will I buy the rest? Perhaps. Am I going to lose sleep over any of it? Not one wink. PDW Obama, has never met a gun control bill he didn't like. He gets an F from the NRA just the same as Hillary. Both would be a disaster for Gun Owners of all types. Rudy is just as anti gun as any liberal Dem. As Mayor of NY he was instrumental in leading the vanguard of cities that tried to sue the gun companies out of business. He also led rallies for the Brady's and Hangun Control. The only pro gunners are Huckabee and Paul now that Thompson is out. Romney also supported restrictive gun control as Governer of Mass.and supports renewing the '94 Ban and making it permanent. McCain is on the fence, NRA gives him a C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnywitt Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 You are also forgetting that Bill Clinton gave away the Panama Canal,a very important route for ships coming into and out of the commerce lanes for the US. You are also forgetting that he is also the one that signed into law the Assault weapon ban that President Bush let sunset. You are also forgetting that he is the one that could have signed the executive order to"sanction" Osama Bin Laden,before he had the chance to mastermind the plans that killed thousands of people on American soil,did untold billions of dollars of damage,seperated many children from parents that were killed in the towers,not to mention the many thousands more that could have been killed if it werent for the heroes that fought to take over the other jet before it could reach its target! President Bush isnt perfect,noone is,but then can you imagine how hard it would be to get something done when a whole other party that controls one whole side of the government is just waiting to twist anything you try to accomplish.This happens in both parties,both are guilty of it! Your getting your Liberal Demo's mixed up. It was Jimmy Carter that "gave " away the Panama Canal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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