Impact Weapons Components
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I'd just like to know if there are any mounts out there that will work WELL with a standard Benelli M4.
The AVA mount looks downright beautiful, but I take issue with the whole "works with Scout Style lights" thing when it doesn't actually work with Scout lights. Oh wait, but it does, but only if you replace every part of the light except the head.
In comparison, the IWC mount looks both rough and flimsy. Rough in terms of machining quality (looks like a rough casting), and flimsy in terms of it looks like it could snap. On the other hand, the way it mounts the light slightly higher than the AVA mount could be better.
What I really want to know is what kind of light is put downrange with these mounts? Maybe it's just the way things will always be with a standard length M4, but I'd love to see some sort of mount near the muzzle. Because with all of these, I feel like half the light will be completely blocked by the barrel and/or mag tube.
Just getting frustrated in my search for a mount without major drawbacks.
Any suggestions?
Ava's mount looks gorgeous!
The pics of ours are actually 3D Printed versions.
When we launch our version, they will be as beautifully machined, anodized and laser engraved to the same quality as all other mounts and accessories we make. Our mount is by no means flimsy, as it locks into and around the snap ring groove. It's robust. Trust me, we heard the same with the THORNTAIL. I recall a guy who posted a pic of the longest SF Scout, the M600, mounted to a THORNTAIL that was mounted at the front of the rail. The guy squeezed the light and the barrel and the light / mount flexed to touch the barrel and then returned to position. We engineer our products with just what's needed to do the job. This mount is no different.
Our base mount is made to work with Scout type lights with mounting holes in the base which is attached to the light body, eliminating the need for a ring or rail or rail clamp. Just like our THORNTAIL mounts.
As for the light beam, the beam spreads past the muzzle, providing a full view of both sides of the weapon. Same as with all of our other mounts, like the THORNTAIL. INLINE, SMC & TMC. The bezel does not need to be at the muzzle.
Thanks!
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A simple-minded question: why is the magazine tube depicted in the photo not secured with a magazine cap ?
We removed the extended mag tube, so there is not magazine tube shown. We wanted to show how it mounts to the snap ring groove used to retain the factory sling loop.
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Can we see a picture of this with a G2X or similar Surefire mounted? Preferably on a complete firearm.
We'll have them up on the site when they launch in early December...
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I like the IWC mount, but I wonder how robust it is. How much abuse can it take in comparison to the AVA mount?
You know how the factory webbing sling mount is retained by the snap ring? Our mount uses the groove the snap ring uses, along with designed in radial clamping forces, similar to our light mounting rings, to grip the barrel lug. Combine this with a very sleek, no snag profile, and during testing, we've found it to be as robust as any of our other mounts.
We stand behind them with a 100% warranty.
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My 2 cents. Sorry, but it's unattractive and singular in use. Don't pimp your ride with this one.
It's actually not a singular mount. We named it the "Multi" because the base mount for $70 intro price has an ambi location designed to attach a SF Scout compatible light directly, like the THORNTAIL & THORNTAIL SBR Light Mount we make. Arisaka, THORNTAIL BACKBONE, Streamlight Rail Mount 1 & 2 or SF M300/M600 lights all have threaded bases machined into these light bodies. Our base mount uses these threaded bases to directly attach the light to the mount. No clamps, rings, etc. Just two fasteners, like our proven THORNTAIL's
Next option, as shown in the pics at the top of the thread, we offer a 1913 rail machined to to mount to either or both of these Scout pattern mounting surfaces using the same fasteners used to mount the Scout type lights as described above. This allows you to mount a Inforce WML or other rail mounted lights like a SF X300.
Based on sales at Haley Strategic and IWC, we've seen Scout Type and Inforce lights dominate the weapon light market, which is why we made the mount focused on these two types of lights. The prices on these lights continue to be very competitive.
Lastly, our rail section can accept the same ring we've been making which attaches to our THORNTAIL, SMC & TMS Light mounts, which hold handheld lights from .830, 1.00 & 1.030.
As for the machining in the pics... These are actually pics of our 3D Printed Models. We don't have any pics of the test mules we CNC'd from billet which have been tested for over 6 months on a variety of M4's. As you may know, we're known for our quality of design, finish, function and quality. We've incorporated our usual quality our new M4 Mount.
Believe me... You won't be disappointed.
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I've been watching this thread hoping to get some additional info on the IWC M4 light mount. I'm also interested in what's going on with the new Ava mount. Any updates? In the mean time I could use some recommendations on which light I should be looking for, which would fit both of these mounts. My M4 will be used primarily for home defense. I'm thinking around 400 lumens should be about right. Suggestions?
What additional info would you like?
The base mount will be as shown on our site, consisting of two CNC Machined Billet 6061-T6 Black Type III Mil Spec anodized "halves" if you will. The top half of the mount has ambi Scout M300 & M600 & Streamlight Rail Mount 1 & 2 mounts, which use 2 - 8-32 x 1/4 TORX or hex fasteners to mount the light at the 1 or 11 position. The top half slides along the underside of the barrel and then drops down and seats against the snap ring groove and flats used to hold the factory stamped webbing sling mount in place, which you toss when using our mount.
Then the bottom half with the ambi Rotation Limited QD's goes into the lower half of the snap ring groove and against the flats. You then insert 2- 8-32 x 3/4" TORX or Hex fasteners into each side and tighten. The halves clamp onto the flats and ring groove, making it impossible for the mount & Scout to rotate or pop off.
The intro price for this mount is $70.00. Going to $100.00 after the first lot sells out.
Optional is a single rail section, specially designed to bolt where either or both of the Scouts go. This rail section allow attachment of an Inforce WML or other weapon rail mounted light or laser. Pricing will be $20 introductory, $25 after the first batch sells out.
The optional rail section accepts any of three IWC rings, which we've sold for over five years. They come in .830, 1.00 or 1.030 and are $20.00.
So if you run a handheld light and wait for the pricing to increase, the total of 4 parts would be $145. But we offer the SUMMIT program, which has free, no strings attached, discounted pricing for a variety of distinguished professions, including the average Joe!
Just an FYI... IWC has invested over $10K in design, prototype and Patent costs to bring this niche market item to fruition.
We hope you like it. It's a simple, light, strong, 2-4 parts, same tool mount made right here in the USA using all of our knowledge gained on our current line of exceptional mounting solutions.
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I checked out the IWC site...very interested in this Scout mount! Hoping to see some pics of it mounted as the pics on their site were not the greatest. Hoping this will work with 14" as well as common 18.5" configs.
Hi! Our mount will work with the 14 & standard barrel length guns.
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We started a new thread in the Benelli sub-forum to introduce our New Multi Light M4 Mounts, but it is pending moderator approval.
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IWC Designs and Manufactures the THORNTAIL, DROPWING, BACKBONE light mounts as well as a full line of niche products which fill a specific need for our customers.
Building on the quality, design and reliability of these product designs, Impact Weapons Components (IWC) s proud to announce our newest product, The "Multi Light Benelli M4 Mount" specifically engineered to meet the varied lighting requirements of users of the M4 weapon system.
Multi Light Benelli M4 Mount - Scout shown above.
Borrowing from our proven THORNTAIL line, the Multi Light Benelli M4 Mount is a modular design with supports three different types of lights and laser devices.
Scout - The base mount for Scout Lights shown above, features dual QD Rotation Limited sling mounts. The mount has a pair of attachment surfaces machined to directly attach ALL Surefire M300/M600 types with the same mounting pattern and design, placing the lights at either the 1:00 or 11:00, or both if so desired.
1913 Picatinney Rail - IWC offers a proprietary 1913 Picatinney Rail Section which directly attaches to either or both Scout mounting surfaces in the base mount. Using this 1913 Rail, the Operator can attach any rail mounted weapon light, laser, LAM, etc., such as the new INFORCE WMLx, Surefire X300U-B, Streamlight TLR series.
Rings for Handheld Light - IWC's propriety 1913 Picatinney Rail section is cross drilled and tapped to accept our .830", 1.000" or 1.030" Light Mounting Rings now offered acrocc our other mounts, including THORNTAIL. Simply attach the Ring to either or both sides of the Scout Multi Light Benelli M4 Mount with 1913 Rail.
http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/multi-light-benelli-m4-mount-scout/
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Earl Pittman
photos of IWC mount with Inforce weapon light
in Benelli
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Your post is dead on. Thanks!