Thanks for the input. I do some clay shooting w/ an 870 wingmaster 20ga; been on a few pheasant hunts; also have a 12 ga stoger condor O/U which I don't like due to the shoulder thing. My 12 yr old son wants to go turkey hunting so I'll be doing that one of these days. Would like a 12 ga semi to round out the inventory, plus I share the guns with my 15 yr old. I guess the question is just how complicated a gas operated semi is to clean?