rickp1
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Another question for you guys. As far as accuracy what's the main difference between a Slug with Trueball and one with none.
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2-4" at 50 yards is what the weapon should be capable of with ammo that it likes.
Great, that's what I was looking for. An thank you for the above, I learned something new.
R.
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You're viewing this somewhat myopically.
Some rifles carry a 1MOA guarantee, some a 0.25MOA guarantee, and some none at all. The M1014/M4S90, and NFA variants do not carry a guarantee, and there is no "standard", just rough guidelines, which several of us have already weighed in on.
And that's what I'm looking for more or less, a guide line. Like what TruckCop mentioned above 3" at 50. I got a lot of tactical training with assault rifles, pistols and sniper systems, and they all have a standard so to speak.
A good weapon with a good shooter can show how accurate a system is. On ****** ssytems the best shooters in the world just can't be accurate with it. The system wont allow it.
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This is a Foster type slug, and it will not spin, or if it does, it is irrelevant. No slug that you will fire from your shotgun is going to spin for stability. It uses a weight-forward design like a shuttlecock.
The slug will not "bite" the bore, nor does it need to. It should seal with the bore and fly down it, and that's it. It's physical design regarding weight distribution stabilizes it.
The 'fins" are there to be mushed into the "valleys" as it passes through even a Full choke, so that the weapon is not harmed. Not for aerodynamic purposes.
So then does the rifling on the slug do anythin to force a spin on the slug to help it stabilize?
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There is no accuracy standard, its all you. Thats like asking whats the standard time for a 30 year old male that weighs 160 lbs to run a mile, all speculation or opinions are suitable answers for a vague question.
No that's not true at all. Sniper rifles have accuracy standards so why would it be completely out of the question to think shotguns and some of its ammo are that much differenet. Granted most shoot much better than that, but there's a standard or baseline so to speak.
Same can be said about about shooters, meaning the if one is shooting 1 moa with said rifle that's said to be the standard.
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Foster slugs are not spin, but weight stabilized. Due to the large bore volume, the 14'' SBS doesn't shed much velocity vs. the longer barrels.
Sorry, i should ahve clarified. I use Federal rifled tactical slugs.
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This varies from weapon to weapon, but I would expect fist-sized groups at 50 yards with a slug that it likes. If anything, it will be more accurate than the 18.5" version.
A shotgun actually begins the recoil phase before the slug leaves the barrel. This means that "follow-through" is important, even with slugs. The shorter the barrel, the less important it is, and since you are "human", the better for you.
I did not know that about the shotgun. Meaning it starts the recoil process before the slug is out.
Being that the slug is rifled and not the barrel how stable is a slug on a 14" system? Does the slug get pushed down the barrel faster than it can establish a good spin? I just cant see the slug getting a good bite on a smooth bore if you know what i mean.
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Lubricate with TW25B or other quality grease (any "hook" or "shelf" looking spot that you see) and fire a few boxes of birdshot through it. My M1014 had a heck of a trigger pull on it when I got it. Now, it is similar to my other M4S90's. Probably a full few pounds lighter than when I got it.
Really?!?!? wow that's significant for just a bit of grease and some shooting. I'll give that a try. thanks
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Another quick question. What's the standard accuracy for a 14" shotgun with rifled slugs??
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Hey guys,
Anyone know if a SBS trigger can be worked on to lighten up a little bit. I was zeroing my Benelli with slugs and the trigger is mighty tight.
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Its my understanding that the safety on an M4 can be swapped for us south paws.
If so, anyone know how to do it or know where I can read how to do it?
thanks
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thanks
rick
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you still have this for sale? If you do do you have any images, if in goos shape I'll take it but I would like to see it first please.
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I went with GGG.
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xamoel,
what do you mean by ripped out threads? like the rail came off due to recoil and weight and riiped the threads?
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great thanks
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WOW, your thinking is right along with mine.
I got the full rail including the horizontal 2 shell holder for combat reloads. It beats the heavy duty rubber band i used in the past. But back to what I said earlier, because of the weight issue, Im really on the fence about it and considering the velcro setup. I think its genious for speed and efficeincy. My only concern would be shell security. I've heard guys runnning that setup that shells fall out unless you put them upside down.
I agree Benelli needs to redesign their HG and have the ability to put rails on them without replacing the whole setup.
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Great info StrangerDanger thanks.
I agree about the saftey being a bit tough to push in and out. I noticed it the first time i worked it.
How much of the spring did you cut off to make is a bit lighter?
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I still havent installed mine but i do have them. I was a bit surprised about weight too. let me ask you did you ahve any issues with rounds slipping out?
If i use the surefire HG then i'll have double side rails. I have a buddy here he own Boresights Solutions that can probably do a custom job and add a single rail to the stock HG. It should be right up his alley
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hey guys,
I got a Sidearmor rail system for my M4. I also know that surefire makes a rail system handguard. I want to add a magpul angle fore grip to the shotgun but really dont want to buy the surefire handguard unless I have to. I also don't need double side rails, one from the sidearmor and the second from the surefire handguard, its double kill.
All I need is just a rail on the bottom of the handguard. Does anyone know if those are available?
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Hey guys,
is it possible to swap the safety for left hand shooters?
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I found that and it's not it. But thanks
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Hey guy,
I'm looking for drill I did a long time ago with a shotgun, the Rolling Thunder Drill.
I'm looking a reference on how to do it.
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If you screw it up, i know someone that might be able to fix it without buying a new one. Don't spend the money on a new one.
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14" Benelli SBS Accuracy
in Benelli
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Interesting!!!
Have you tried Brenneke slugs?? I heard they were great, but now the company is putting out some crap. Not sure why.
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