billy-boy

ha! a Glock for 400.??, I`d say you did quite well as used Glocks arent used enough to break into the 300 dollar mark just yet,nope I never seen one that cheap.

Griffin Howe has one exc/600.

I picked it up after some more research,and going back to the shop 3 more times. Turns out as far as I can tell,it is a super black eagle with rafaello 123 markings. Benelli armi system bolt with the shell drop button on triggerguard. Mfg 1993 BC date coded. It looks like a higher grade model,looks like the one in link pic below. Any idea how much this gun was when new?? Certainly aint no sl80,like the one next to it,and not available in this country as far as I can tell,maybe special order? Imported from Sweden recently. http://www.mxm.ru/oxota/products/19009.jpg where can I get light load parts kit etc?? thanks all Billy

Thanks all, that BB is the same as mine.The 123V listing, doesnt differentiate between the Urbino marked sl80 I saw for 400., versus the Raffaelo marked sl80 for 600. though. Were these early Rafaello as big a jump in price [over the Urbino] back then as they are now?? Or not so much? These 2 just look like a slightly better wood grade diffrence,the photo etched engraving remains the same. Sayimg that parts are disvontinued,and Im not that hardup on it,what is a cash barganing price I can offer?? thanks again!! Billy

hi all I got a line on a 85% 12ga sl80 123 rafaello grade. Its prolly the 1980`s mfg. Upgraded wood is only like one X grade,looks mostly carried,no dents/cracks,some nicks in metal. The tag says 600. What should be the valuation on this here,cant find rafael-O in the bluebook. thanks!! billy

in the latest cabelas catalog is a gadget that fits in the buttstock,which will allow you to fire really light loads up to heavy. you can also reload 24gram steel hot as you can and try that [find recipe] like 3 1/2 dram eqiv.. [ 03-06-2005, 08:54 PM: Message edited by: billy-boy ]

Thanks, ive already went thru the trouble of stripping the lock,looking for some stray plastic from the molding process,didnt find much. oh well, my advice is dont do that as it is a p.i.t.a. to reassemble. nevertheless,i got the phenomena to repeat itself,but it seems a rare occurence: if I insert the cartridge slowly,it is possible [with me skinny waif thumbs]to not push up the shell carrier to where it will stick. so it snaps back against my thumb before i get the rim past the mag stop. Inserting the shells with more force works every time.

hi all, just got a 20ga nova and got to working it out today on the skeet field when i got a round to feed under a closed bolt [loaded chamber] as i was stuffing the magazine.this happened twice. like the shell lifter came down prematurely. playing a little more afterwards i noticed: --after loading the chamber directly,closing the action,and loading one in the magazine, the shell elevator/lifter doesnt come back down until after a round is fired and shucked. IS THIS NORMAL OPERATION?????? THANKS