Chronos
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I'm planning on getting myself a Sako 75 later this year. Perhaps in 7mm WSM
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Nice link tucker!
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Or perhaps they read theses posts and would rather not loose future customers like myself.
I'm happy you got the support you needed, good luck!
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Thanks DreamHuntz, that's encouraging!
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I vote for a 325 WSM
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Tucker is a good reference here from the posts I've seen. Him parting from the R1 says a lot about the rifle.
It's kinda discouraging, but perhaps when I get mine I will find no problems with it.
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Tucker, how does the BAR shoot compared to the R1? What caliber did you get?
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So everyone is selling their R1s?
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So, let me get this straight.
Benelli doesn't care if you shoot High Energy ammunition (even when Federal's site says not to shoot them in semi-autos) and you don't need to break in your rifle?
Not that I don't believe you DreamHuntz, it just seems to go against what we've all been taught.
I wonder what's the opinion of Benelli's other CS agents and also their engineers. I kinda would like to get this right as I'm getting my R1 as soon as it is released in Canada (June/July) and I intend to give it the best care I can, like I do to all my rifles.
[ 01-11-2006, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: Chronos ]
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I don't see the picture
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Funny thing you ask, since I also wanted to know so my friends and I made a 300 caliber competition... read on.
I had the pleasure of shooting a Tikka T3 in both 300 WSM (friend 1) and 300 Win Mag (friend 2). To me, I saw no difference shooting both.
Both guys when shooting each other's rifle agree that the difference (in recoil) is probably more psychological than real. The power is the same.
On the target, similar results are obtained, and both guys are great shooters. In fact, the T3 is very accurate with Norma brand cartridges and you could not see the difference both calibers. (~1 MOA = 2 inch grouping at 200 yards)
We even tried a small competition:
Hit a 1 inch thick metal gong @ 300 meters (used for black powder shooting; we use it to try to penetrate it from a far
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If you look closer:
Penetration is nearly the same, and they are very close together (yet it is 2 different shooters with 2 different calibers). We don't try groupings on it, since the range master would be p!ssed.
For laughs, look at the very bottom of the gong, you will see that my .270 did nothing at all to the gong.
So in the end, we all agree that it comes down to price per cartridge, and psychological recoil (after all, both were hurting after a box of ammo). See this link : Caliber Economics
Anthony (friend 1, 300 WSM) pays ~ 1.75 $cdn per quality cartridge while Jeff (friend 2, 300 WIN MAG) pays ~ 1.25 $cdn per quality cartridge.
You can be sure that when I get my Comfortech R1 (June/July), it will be 300 WIN MAG and we'll also redo the competition... this time with a semi-auto in it... We'll see how the Benelli R1 fares...
Hope this helps,
Chronos.
EDIT: The real question is, what bullet on the 300 WSM / 300 WIN MAG will pierce the gong at the same distance... armor piercing ?
[ 01-07-2006, 10:53 AM: Message edited by: Chronos ]
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Jim, though it looks like 300 WSM will not be available in Comfortech anytime soon, there is nothing stopping you from getting a .300 Win Mag.
See this site if you're battling 300 WSM and .300 Win Mag : Short Mags: Magic Or Myth?.
[ 01-06-2006, 08:59 PM: Message edited by: Chronos ]
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Reply to self:
Got news from Stoeger Canada again:
The R1 with comfortech stock will be available in 300 win mag and 30-06
only. We expect delivery into Canada will be approx June/July 2006.
Thank you for your interest in Benelli.
Best regards,
Someone.
Stoeger Canada
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When you're done with the break in procedure, (iowahunter posted a very good reference), make sure you tell us how it went and post your accuracy results!
Good luck!
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I'd buy a 325 WSM if they had one. See Winchester Press Release and American Rifleman article .
Though that caliber being new, I can predict high prices on the box...
EDIT: Contacted Benelli:
Dear Sir,
Currently at this point in time there are no plans for this caliber to be
introduced.
Sincerely,
Customer Service Dept.
BenelliUSA/Stoeger Industries
17603 Indian Head Highway
Accokeek, MD 20607
Customer Service Line: 301/283-6981
[ 01-04-2006, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: Chronos ]
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Actually, your Glock pistol is a 'restricted' firearm, simply because it is a handgun. As I mentioned, it only means that you can't hunt with it, and you need the restricted-class PAL. (And you need to pass 3 courses, instead of 2). If the barrel was 4.1 inches or less, it would be 'prohibited' and you wouldn't be able to bring it to Canada (not legally...).Originally posted by shekaree:Chronos,
I don't think I have restricted firearm, at least they are not restricted in US. I have a benelli M1 shot gun, savage 30-06 rifle, R1, Ruger .22 and a Glock pistol Model 35, 40 cal, and 5 inch barrel)
Looks like I will be contacting you a lot for more info on Canada and settling there.
I have a Ruger .22 Mark III 5 1/2 barrel which is restricted, being a handgun. I can't hunt with it (nor would you want to...being a .22 pistol) but I do occasionally miss my target and get a bird or some small varmin. I'm a bad shooter I guess
Since this is a New Year's post after all, PM me or start a new post if you have any questions and I'll gladly answer.
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shekaree, actually it's not so complicated. It's more dependant on the type of firearms that you own.
Everything you need to know is available here : Canadian Firearms Center and especially here if you are moving :
Moving to Canada with firearms
The only complications you might meet is that you will have to get your firearms inspected and registered (if you are to stay for good in Canada).
You might also have to leave your firearms at the custom center for several days too.
Then, you will have to comply with the Canadian laws regarding firearms (such as max ammo = 5 instead of 10 in the US, min barrel length for handguns etc).
You will have to get your firearms into our stupid firearms database and get the licence to 'own' (Possession and Aquisition Licence (PAL), available with restricted and non-restricted class).
To have that licence, it is not enough to simply pay for it, you will have to pass both stupid 1-day courses on Firearms safety and hunting.
Without that licence, you can not legally own a firearm in Canada, nor can you buy ammo etc..
If you hunt, you need a hunting licence. (Not sure about the US, probably similar). You cannot hunt with a 'restricted class' firearm (see below). If you do both 1-day courses, you will get that licence automatically.
If you have fairly standard firearms (our equivalent of unrestricted class) then you will meet no problems.
If you have restricted or prohibited firearms, expect complications.
[edit] Important, you should do the Licence part in advance, since getting one after doing the courses takes 4-6 months and you cannot own a firearm during that time. (Seriously).
Now you might think "forget about all that licensing and registration crap, I'm buying my ammo in the US". Know this: If you get caught hunting or at the range with an unregistered or illegal firearm, not only will you never see it again, you risk 2 years in prison and $$$.
Hope this enough info... Reading back, I can see it's a lot of hassle, but once you get passed that everything should be fine. Should you require more info, check the sites I gave you or just ask
Have a nice stay in Canada
(yes, stupid gun laws here... but it's a nice country if you forget about that, so don't let our laws discourage you...)
[ 01-01-2006, 06:41 PM: Message edited by: Chronos ]
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Happy New Year!
I'll be happy if they REALLY release the Comfortech R1 this year in Canada. I too, want to be an R1 owner...
*hint* for Benelli.
If would be nice if it came before the Fall '06 hunting season, but I'd buy it right now...
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Thanks, very helpful if it's not released for next year in Canada. I'm assuming that converted in CDN$, you paid around 1600$? Most shops here sell the standard R1 starting at 1700$, so you saved a lot!
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Cool!
Did you save money by doing this? Did you have to pay tax/duties? How complicated was the import?
[ 10-11-2005, 08:44 AM: Message edited by: Chronos ]
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I've seen that too. Check the Federal page and look up 300 WIN MAG in the cartridge. You'll see a PREMIUM VITAL*SHOK® Nosler partition with HE. Click on ballistics and in the bottom it says:
"HE = High Energy (NOT recommended for semi-automatic rifles)"
Nicolas.
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For Canadians interested in the Confortech R1, I contacted Stoeger Canada and they said that it will be available approx. mid 2006. (Hopefully in time for the 2006 fall hunting season).
[ 08-13-2005, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: Chronos ]
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I too would like a catalog, though I'm not willing to post my address on a forum. Is there a way the webmaster or anyone at Benelli could fix http://www.benelliusa.com/catalog-request/index.tpl so that I can enter my province + postal code ?
Our local dealers have the 'dealers' catalog and aren't willing to relinquish it to drooling customers.
Thanks,
Nicolas.
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+1 for 6.8 SPC and 7mm WSM