AndyUK
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The more firmly you pull back on the pump, the more forceful the ejection. For me, they come out straight to the side or slightly rearwards. You can either smile as yet another case bounces off your nose or, I believe that at one time it was possible to buy and ejection plate which caused the case to be deflected. I suspect that it could end up as a winter evening project . As a leftie I think good shooting glasses are mandatory!
AndyUK
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dakOta,
First off, do you have the manual for the SN? If so, turn to p25, if not, you can download the appropriate manual as a .pdf from the Benelli website.
If you are not familiar with checking that a shotgun fits you correctly, my advice would be to go to a clayshooting layout with a QUALIFIED coach and pay them to check that the gun fits you correctly. Alternatively, if you bought the SN new from a good gunshop with a qualified gunsmith they should advise you for free.
Getting your friend, whose cousin's, aunties pet fish once met someone who claimed to know what to do will only make matters worse:D
I can explain how to do the mechanical 'bits' i.e. change the stock on the gun but it is far more difficult to check if it actually fits you correctly without being there. (I've only half finished building the teleporter and having seen The Fly, I'm not keen on completing the job just to beam over there and help:D)
Theoretically, altering the comfortech stock on the SN is easy - you just need the parts! I don't know how easy it is to change the stock parts in the US (or how expensive) also, I'm assuming that it is a comfortech stock?
Lots to think about but once you have a few answers feel free to get back to me and we'll see about sorting the stock fit. I'm sure that there are many other members of the forum who can also help.
I am away for the next week helping to run a public display of historic firearms but I will answer any posts when I return.
Regards
AndyUK
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dakOta,
I'm left handed, for some things, but I'm right handed and right master eyed so, I shoot from the right shoulder.
I've not tried reversing the safety but it should be easy enough if you want to do it. I think you'll find that the action release lever cannot be altered as it would also require a left-handed trigger group moulding into which the release lever is located. Manipulating the release lever in its current position but from a 'left handed' position reveals no problem or lack of ease in operation - you just have to be a little bit more deliberate in putting your finger across to depress the lever - an easily learned drill. If it really is a problem i.e. you have short fingers or a smallish hand, you might consider having someone (a proper gunsmith) fabricate an extended lever which angles across, under the trigger housing to the left side. Personally, I think that it is a solution to a non-existant problem!
Ah, the magazine stop button! In parts of Europe it seems to be acceptable to carry a pump or auto in a vehicle with the chamber empty and rounds in the magazine for when you are chasing bunnies (in the car) jump out, cycle a round and open fire. Seriously, the idea is that you can easily empty the chamber - leaving the mag. loaded - to facilitate the safe crossing of obstacles and then just drop the loose shell back in the chamber having negotiated the obstacle. The Benelli autos used to claim a similar benefit for their inertia cycling system. They claimed you could rack the action to eject a live shell and the mechanism would not pick up a new round from the mag. it only worked if you actually fired the gun. Obviously, the other reason for doing this is to interchange the type of shell in the breech.
So much for the reason why Benelli are so keen on having a magazine disconnect and back to YOUR QUESTION about how it works. Well, the manual isn't a model of clarity. To eject an unfired (or fired) shell from the chamber and then close the slide without introducing a live round into the breech you do the following;
Press the previously discussed action release lever and gently start pulling the fore-end back. At the same time, put an upward (VERY FIRM) pressure on the mag. stop button. As the fore-end is retracted about one inch / two and a half centimetres the button will pop up with a loud click. You can then let go. Firmly retracting the fore-end to the rear will then eject the shell in the breech. However, pushing the button up has introduced a block in the rearward movement of the fore-end, which now completes its rearward journey slightly short of its 'normal' fully rear position. Examine the rear position of the fore-end with mag. stop button engaged and disengaged and you will see what I mean - it comes to rest about quarter of an inch forward of its normal position. This effectively prevents a shell from coming back out of the magazine and being lifted up and fed into the breech. Its simple and it works. Firmly pushing the fore-end back forward into the locked position disengages the mag. stop button, it pops back down into the flush position.
I hope that you have been able to extract the necessary information from my verbose ramblings! The SN really is an excellent tool and well designed - it's not a best English game gun and makes no pretence to be so.
Happy and safe left handed shooting!
Sorry, nearly forgot, if you are shooting from the left shoulder I assume that you will have already established if you need to remove the stock and flip the deviation plates for a left-shoulder deflection. (See the manual p25).
Once again, all the best
AndyUK
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I think you'll find that B-Square currently only manufacture a saddle mount to fit the Nova, NOT the Super Nova. The system advertised by Mesa-tactical might be worth looking at, although I have absolutely no experience of their products with regard to quality or functionality, I'm sure that others will be well able to comment from personal experience.
Regards
AndyUK
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I don't know what the problem is but it would seem that Benelli don't sell their own mounting rail in the US. It IS listed in the SN manual (US version). I tried ordering one through the new UK distributor and they didn't want to bother for such a small part. However, I contacted the factory directly and I am now expecting a Benelli 'scope rail to arrive at my local dealer's in the next week or so.
I'll have to have the action drilled and tapped and I intend to fit an Eotech sight as my SN is primarily intended to be used with slugs. I will post piccys as and when ...
Cheers
AndyUK
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Greetings from the Eastern side of the 'pond'.
I also have the standard Benelli +2 tube for my SN. As previously posted, the spring looks waaaay too big when you first look at it but after a few goes it all assembles pretty easily. I've not had any bad experiences with this tube and it seems to feed without problem - I put about a thousand rounds through the gun during the first month of ownership. I understand that the OEM tubes are a little difficult to acquire in the US?
Oh, I believe that there are some minor celebrations taking place in the USA today - something to do with kicking us lot out ...
Have a pleasant 4 July.
AndyUK
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Rick,
I'm sure others will concur.
Benelli barrels are VERY expensive. I recently got a quote fro an additional barrel for my SuperNova here in the UK. The cost was between two-thirds and three-quarters of the cost of a new gun. It would have been cheaper to buy a second-hand gun with the tube I wanted!
So, the real question is, can you afford it?
Regards
Andy
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Brad,
Not sure which Benelli that you are working on!
I think that they are all pretty similar. I have a SuperNova and when I fitted the extension tube it was a little fiddly the first once or twice.
The procedure is described in the manual (Benelli USA version - American English) however, it is not a model of clarity.
Firstly, double and triple check that the chamber is clear and that the magazine is empty; sticking 1 1/8oz of sixes through the kitchen ceiling will really get the dog barking!!
I quote (in part) from the manual:
"1) Unscrew and remove the magazine cap by turning it counter-clockwise. (Looking from the muzzle).
2) Remove the barrel. (You'll probably need to slightly open the action and give the barrel a jiggle to free it - careful not to scratch it).
3) You'll now see a thin metal cover in the end of the tube, underneath it is the spring and possibly, a magazine limiting plug. Now this is important - insert something like a screwdriver with flat blade into the opening and take some of the pressure off the spring. Use needle nose pliers or similar to squeeze the thin metal retaining ring so that it is now slightly smaller dia. than the magazine tube. This retaining ring can then be CAREFULLY removed, ensuring that the magazine spring pressure is gradually released. Remove the spring, magazine plug-if fitted and magazine follower.
The extension kit should comprise of extended spring, metal cap, threaded extension collar, tube and clamps. (For a SuperNova).
Re-insert the mag. follower, screw the threaded extension collar halfway onto the extension tube, with the metal cap inserted in the end of the tube - it often tilts over. Put the extended spring into the extension tube so that it presses up against the metal cap and holds it in place. Insert the other end of the spring into the mag. tube and carefully bring together, gradually compressing the spring. It may look as if it will never all fit - it does! Screw home firmly. Fit the bracket and tighten, taking care not to scratch the finish. At the first opportunity, function test several times to ensure that the follower moves up the tube smoothly and that the magazine holds the correct number of shells correctly. Don't wait until you need it before checking this out!
I hope that this is of some assistance. As I said, if you don't have a manual you can download from the Benelli site - check it's the English language version.
Regards
Andy
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Thanks.
Once the new Benelli importer for the UK is established, I'll talk to them about obtaining more details.
AndyUK
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I received my new Supernova during the Christmas holiday and have been so impressed with it that I am now considering a Benelli auto.
I believe that the model in question is called the Ultralight in America and the Montefrelto Beccaccia in Europe - it's the one with the 24" barrel and short fore grip with two shot magazine.
Anyone here have any experience with this model? I'm principally interested because of the light weight and two shot capacity (maximum legally permitted here in the UK - without a lot of police hassle).
Kind regards to all
AndyUK
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tucker301
Thanks. I'll check out the Weaver rail - it may be cheaper than the Benelli!
AndyUK
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Sonyman74 - Thanks for the prompt response.
Interesting what you say; the UK Benelli dealership has just changed hands and I won't be able to get an 'official' response from the new distributor for about two weeks. However, the Supernova that I have is one of the American models ( it has the Benelli USA markings on the LH receiver). Very few Supernovas are sold in the UK - mine was a special order, diverted from a batch destined for the USA, even so it took nearly three months to arrive from Italy (I hope that it is more reliable than the Alfa Romeo I used to drive!)
I was told that the 'Tactical' and 'Slug gun' models WERE drilled and tapped but not others (and certainly not mine). I am certain that you are correct in asserting that the receiver will suffer no ill effect through drilling and tapping - I just need to establish the dimensions of the correct mounting screws for the Benelli rail. Also, as mine is a Supernova I think that the receiver dimensions will differ from those of the Nova, precluding use of a Nova-specific aftermarket mount.
Incidentally, are Benelli parts / accessories as highly priced in the USA as in the UK? A replacement barrel is about 80 percent of the price of a complete gun and recoil pads and cheek pieces are equivalent to 100 USD and 80 USD respectively. Oh, just to make you wince, the cheapest slug ammo (NOT sabot) is about 90 USD per 100!
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Firstly, Seasons greetings from the UK!
I've just acquired a new Comfortech Supernova w/ 24" barrel and mag extension, giving 7+1 capacity. This is mainly intended for IPSC shotgun comps and slug target / action shooting matches.
I had the gun at the range this afternoon and put about three boxes of shells through it. I'm really pleased with my choice, although it is taking a little effort getting used to the slightly different pump-action from a Rem 870.
At the moment I have it fitted with the Williams shotgun 'Firesight' system (SUPERB) but I might like to fit a red dot / holosight at some stage.
Does anyone know if it is possible to fit (drill and tap?) the receiver to accept a rail? The receiver does not come factory drilled and tapped - not available in the UK, I'm advised.
Thanks in advance for any advice
AndyUK
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Sev06,
Have a look at the Benelli catalogue. The European version shows five basic types of barrel available for the SN: Vent rib w/ intenal chokes (plain and cammo.), slug, rifled slug and tactical with sight to match ghost ring receiver sight. Of course, most of these are also available in a variety of lengths.
My experiences are based upon the UK and NOT the USA. Benelli pricing seems to operate on the premise that if you own a Benelli you must have a lot of money! (Which you want to spend on more Benelli 'bits'). Basically, a new Benelli barrel will cost as much as a cheap shotgun.
Also, the barrels do appear to take a long time to arrive - no one keeps stuff in stock anymore. Expect three months to six months, assuming that you are able to place an order.
Of course the USA is a much bigger market and therefore, second hand and third party manufactured barrels are more likely to be available.
Best regards
AndyUK