Alaskapopo
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You said it best keep it basic. I personaly dont even like lights.
I would get a full length tube its always good to have a few extra rounds.
So you don't like identifying your target before you shoot. Not smart. Lights are a must have on any defensive weapon.
Pat
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your last sentence is by far the stupidest thing ive seen all year. which shows me how st-pid you really are. but then again you voted for the big zero. so there was never a question about your intelligence!!
Wow a guy who probably did not finish high school is questioning my intelligence.
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If you think that the dyed-in-the-wool gungrabbing Marxist Maobama was anything but selected by Soros and the other money powers then *it appears* you're a delusional kool-aid drinker. lol
I cannot imagine any gunowners being Maobama apologists, but I suppose there are.
If there are any kool-aid drinking Obamanation subscribers viewing this forum, no need to hold your breath waiting for the other shoe to drop, because it won't be long now.
Gotta love ACORN getting punked. lol
I voted for Obama. His stance on guns is not good but what he has been doing seem to be bring the economy around slowly. Also there has been no gun bans as all the chicken littles predicted as soon as Obama took office.
The main reason most of the chicken littles don't like him is because he is black.
Pat
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You really have to consider how you plan on using the sight. I'm primarily interested in home defense. For that application I'm leaning towards the Trijicon Reflex RX30. My reasoning is that the most likely scenario for home defense is the classic "bump in the night". If my M4 is by the bed or in the closet I want to grab it and be combat ready. The Trijicon is Fiber Optic and Tritium. It gets its illumination from ambient light and the tritium light source. No batteries, no buttons, no switches, pick it up, point, and shoot. Tritium lights rely on the radioactive decay of tritium gas in the tube. It will glow for 10-12 years and does not have to be "charged" in bright light like Luminova luminous paint.
My second choice would be one of the Aimpoint products. They claim anywhere from 5-8 years of continuous use from a set of batteries. That's amazing. I not thrilled with the idea of leaving it on constantly and otherwise you are back to twisting dials in the dark to get it to work.
If I win the lottery it will be Trijicon ACOG all the way.
I like Trijicon's products but the reflex sights suck. They darken the lens to make the amber reticle stand out. It washes out against many backgrounds. As for the batteries don't worry about it with Aimpoint. Just turn it on and leave it on. That is what I do with my Aimpoint M4. I have not had to change the batteries and I have had it for a year now. 7 more to go. Batteries in Aimpoints are easier to change than tritium in the reflex and they both last about the same now.
Pat
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I own an M4 and a friend has the M2. I fired his with full power 3 inch slugs and did the same with my gun. His gun kicks much much worse. M4 no question don't look back.
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A friend of mine just got a sweet deal on a Nova and would like to buy a shorter barrel for it. Where can he get barrels and how much?
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ITS A BAYONET
Its a magazine extension.
Pat
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Need advice on accessories now.
Gonna hold off on the red dot until I get all my choices sorted out. Already got an extension tube now.
I'm looking to get a Mesa Tactical 8 shot shell carrier... but was wondering if these worked with our M4s.
It says for M1... but I don't know why there'd be a problem for the M4. If not... maybe a sleeve of some sort that can hold a few shells?
I want to put some buckshot on the 8 rail carrier, then some slugs on the buttstock one so I will never have to fumble around and always know what shells are what.
...edit. Oh... and what sling do you guys use?
The Mesa unit works great. A side saddle is a must on a combat shotgun.
Pat
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I would take a .223/5.56 carbine when my life is on the line. The shotgun is fine but its more limited in range and capacity and its harder to shoot. The subgun is just a pistol with a stock attached. No thanks. When you need a long gun you need one in a rifle caliber.
Pat
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The problem is you are comparing bird hunting to combat. It is not the same. When you are shooting with a shotgun at CQB distances your pattern is not going to be that large. At 10 yard the pattern on my Vang 870 is about 4 inches tops. The M4 is slightly larger. That is not a large enough pattern to just point shoot with. You have to aim and shoot a combat shotgun just like a carbine.
Lets compare a game that is far closer to CQB that bird hunting Three gun. In three gun in open class where optics are allowed on shotguns you will see all the top shooters using them. There is a reason for that it makes them faster and gives them an edge.
I shoot three gun and I am also a firearms instructor for my department. I have to tell you that shooting a carbine and a shotgun is not all that different. I greatly prefer the carbine for most functions. The only time I break the shotgun out anymore is for bears and moose and its always loaded with slugs for that task so its really a big bore rifle. I have very little use for buck shot.
Pat
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I love Eotech's on a carbine. I also like the Micro Aimpoint, but for me, the Eotech is a faster aquisition sight because of the 65 moa ring.
Have you actually tested that theory with a timer at the range. I used to think like you did but found myself faster with a solid 2 to 4 moa dot. The ring was all but useless at anything other than point shooting range where you really did not need it. I found myself using the 1 moa dot mostly.
The Eotech is a good sight but I found the Aimpoint slightly faster but less precise.
Pat
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Skeet is not combat not even close. Optics are always a plus on CQB guns rather they be shotguns or carbines. We are going to have to agree to disagree.
Pat
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I would only use an optic for ranges over 50 yards. If you expect your CQBs to be within 35 yards, you might be better off w/o an optic. EOtech recommend a minimum zero in range of 50 yards for all of their HWS models, for example.
They recommend a 50 yard 0 because that is where the .223 is best 0 at. IF you are 0'd at 50 you are also 0'd at 225. Optics also give you an edge in CQB no need to wait to 50 yards. Optics are always a plus and do not slow you down.
Pat
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I slid it over the barrel but the interface would not line up properly with the reciever. Slightly off.
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The M80 did not fit my m4 I had to send it back.
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If your that close to an Alaskan Brown bear or a Griz to use a shotgun, you're aleady dead. But like the old timers say " At least I got the bear, that got me." Get a Marlin lever action carbine in .45-70 like the Alaskian guides carry. If you must have the M4, get sabbots shooting a solid metal slugs. Should be pretty accurate.
SgtCathy
Cape Cod
Sorry but your are wrong. At close range 0-25 yards nothing beats a 12 gauge with Breneke slugs at stopping a brown bear that is charging. A Lever gun in 45-70 comes close but I still would prefer the shotgun with Breneke slugs. We have put a fair number of bear down with them here.
Pat
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Glad your ok. But the sound of a auto's bolt being racked will have the same effect as a pump being pumped. In the end its the idea of being shots that makes most of them run.
Pat
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No buck no standard foster slugs. Stick with Breneke slugs if you need to stop a bear they work. We have had to use them quite a bit on bears up here.
Pat
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I used pliers and they worked ok.
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Mine just came with the improved cylinder. I purchased the others.
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No for 00 buck I use the standard choke. But up here I use my shotgun as a big bore rifle for bear and moose. For gun calls with people I use my Colt 6920 (223 carbine). I don't load buck into my shotgun. Its loaded with all Breneke slugs.
Pat
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OOoooh, 8+1. That's plenty for home defense too. Thanks for the reply. Now I have to think about getting a full length tube. Which mag extension is that? It looks like that extension has the detents to hold it in place like a mag cap?? Thanks again.
Yes the tube is belled in at the end and you put in what looks like a follower but it goes in the tube and holds the spring in place. Its made by Daves Metal works. http://www.davesmetalworks.com/ben.html
One word of caution I am getting by the law (Section 922) by being a law enforcement office using this as my duty shotgun. For you to install the extended magazines (more than 5 rounds) you need to make it a short barrel shotgun or have 5 or more US made parts in your gun. My gun has a US made tube, and extension and follower. Also with the extension I can actually load 8 in the tube 1 on the carrier and one in the chamber for 10 rounds.
Pat
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Nice grouping. I apologize for my ignorance, as I am strictly smoothbore and an amateur one at that, but are rifled chokes graded? ie IC, mod etc? I know nothing about rifled chokes. Also, did you have to compensate for the range or are the groupings pretty much point of aim? Lastly, what is that at the end of your full length mag (since I don't have one) another mag extension? special standoff device? Thanks. I haven't been around too often lately so I haven't seen your other posts if you described these in the past, and since I am inquiring about the choke, I got lazy and didn't do a search...
I sighted the shotgun in to hit at point of aim at 50 yards. Rifled chokes are simple screw in chokes with rifling. No grades.
The thing at the end of my barrel is a magazine extension. It allows me to load 8 rounds in the magazine. I shoot in USPSA three gun competitions and the class I shoot allows you to have 8+1 in the gun. This allows me to be competitive. I can load 8+1+1 but its a pain in the arse to load the carrier while on line at a match.
Pat
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Shells in the side saddle are upside down. You pull down and then feed it into the magazine. Not up and out and down.
Pat