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  1. Absolutley Alaska Bear, Many people have turned their m4's into illegal shotguns. The ATF term is Destructive Device as it has over a 1/2" bore. A DD is OK if you have registered it as such. You cannot turn a M4 into an "any other weapon" as it originally came with a full length stock & it is classed as a shotgun because of this, even though it came with a pistol grip also. As an example what can be done with just a $5.00 tax stamp & Any Other Weapon class look at the Serbu Shorty, it still needs to be registered though. The Serbu was never a shotgun because it was never designed to be shoulder fired. You cannot do the AOW with the Benelli. Going through the parts changing game is futile in my opinion, if they want to make an example of you they can, just by saying you changed a sporting purpose shotgun into a non sporting one. The secretary gets to determine this on a whim. If you want to be really sure you are not breaking the law do as Alaska Bear says & register as a DD, you may also shorten the barrel or do what you want with it, it will all be declared & ATF approved. You will need to pay $200.00, I know I would sleep better paying the $200.00. If you are caught with an illegal DD maybe the ATF will give you a break, reminds me of the phrase "do you feel lucky". My advice is to have an attorney draw up a Revocable Trust & transfer your DD to this trust. You will need to engrave the receiver in tiny letters with name of your trust. You send the forms to ATF & tell them what you intend to do. I mention using a Revocable Trust so you won't get laughed out of your local police station asking for a signature. No signature is required, no fingerprints, no nothing except your application. The trust will cost a few bucks, it is well worth it though, you can own the firearms you want, see your state laws though. Most people can own silencers,SBR's,SBS's some even machine guns. My 2 cents worth of advice is to obey the law untill we can change it. Shine on, Randy
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