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  1. Yes, that's right. Neither worked. Gun still doing the same thing. I plan on changing out the carrier latch and spring next. Just making sure I didn't miss some information.




    I had a similar problem for a while this past summer. I did what you said above and have not had a problem since.


    Do you shoot the gun a lot?

  2. I'm new to duck hunting and such...


    so forgive the really noobish question...


    I think I really like the walnut satin finish better than the camo or black composite...


    wood is still fine for duck hunting right? are there any cons to wood (other than it scratches?)...


    benelli's SBE2 is made in Italy right?






    Yes, wood and bluing are fine. But IMHO the comfortech stuff is a help, at least when shooting heavy loads at ducks and geese. Depends a bit on how much duck/goose hunting you intend to do.

  3. A quick question about jamming.


    I have an SBE II with about 10,000 rounds through it. I recently bought three flats of 1.125 oz 1200 fps Remington Gun Clubs (#8s, FWIW) to use at the range. Last weekend out of 200 rounds I had about 10 cases where on the second shot the shell was just resting on the carrier and the carrier was about 1/2 of the way up. (The empty hull was ejected in every case). Soooo...I brought the gun home and tore it down completely and cleaned everything: trigger group, action spring and tube, mag tube and spring, etc. etc. I cleaned everything, relubed, and went back to the range yesterday. And...same thing. Now, I have probably shot about 8000 rounds of target loads through this gun, including 1180 fps 1 oz loads with narry an issue. The only thing I have had to do is replace the action spring.


    I have not had a chance to pick up some different ammo to see if this makes a difference, but other than that I had done all of the obvious things.


    Any thoughts?



  4. I shoot a lot of very light loads in my SBE II, both in skeet/sporting clays, and at Doves. I can always cycle 1 oz 1185 fps loads, even though technically you are not supposed to be able to do so.


    Geese and ducks don't seem to mind being killed by my SBE II with the matte black finish.


    Briley or Comp-N-Choke.

  5. I am thinking of getting a LH Montefeltro (already have the LH SBE II, and love it--looking for a new toy, of course). Here is a potentially dumb question. I realize that the Montefeltro only comes in wood (at least the LH versions). A friend told me, however, that he is sure that the Cordoba synthetic stock and forend would swap out for that of the Montefeltro.


    Just curious. Any truth to this?

  6. So, where do I find a replacement recoil/action spring for the SBE II? I see that Brownell's sells them for the SBE, but it does not specifically state if these will fit the SBE II. Moreover, it is my understanding that the SBE II has a coating of some sort on the spring while the SBE spring does not. Is there some other outlet?



  7. No observations just a thought...maybe your recoil spring has gotten too weak to reliably seat your bolt fully into battery? I would think that's not the case based on the number of rounds you've fired but stranger things have happened.


    Yes, I have wondered the same thing. Perhaps it's just time to do it, change it that is.


    In the newer SBE II's is there any advantage of the Sure Cycle system relative to the factory spring? I have read not, but then I personally have no experience here.

  8. I know this is an old post, but I started it...and I am still having problems. Here's what happened last time I shot my SBE II at the skeet range. The first round it worked flawlessly...not a hiccup, nothing (shooting 1185 fps 1 oz. Winchester target loads, too). Then the next round it started. About every third time I would load a shell, hit the bolt release, and flip the gun over to put a second round in the magazine the carrier would not fully raise because the bolt was not fully seated in the battery. (Also, per Tucker's instruction I carefully checked the alignment of the tab relative to the slot on the bottom of the bolt, and frankly I could see no problems.) By the time I got to station 8 on the second round I was going nuts...two misfires on station 8 because I forgot to check and see if the bolt was full seated.


    Soooo....I took the gun to my gunsmith/friend the other day, and he is going to have a look at it. He did notice some unusual wear on the top left rail...it almost seems like the bolt could be slightly binding here at some point. And before you say it, yes, I lube the rails well (but lightly). Oh yes, the chamber was spotless, as well as the locking groves where the bolt seats into the battery.


    Frankly, I find this all very frustrating. I love this gun, and I honestly shoot it better than anything else I have ever owned. But I want to make this problem go away. This is beyond the occasional "click," this is darned near "terminal click."


    Any thoughts? Observations? Similar experiences?



  9. There is a raised tab on one side the carrier.

    The tab fits into a slot that is machined into the bottom of the bolt.

    Sometimes, especially on newer guns, these are not aligned exactly as they should be, and rather than slipping into the slot, the tab will hang on the edge of the slot. This prevents the carrier from going all the way up and it's impossible to get another shell into the magazine.


    The simplest fix is to determine which way the tab needs to go and then remove the trigger group and bend it in that direction slightly. It only takes a small amount of effort with a decent wide plier. Linesman pliers work well.



    Tucker, many thanks! I will have a close look at this soon, but what you have described sounds very plausible.


    THANKS! :cool:

  10. From one Hoosier to another! Same thing was happening to a friend's SBE II today! He thinks like you the chamber needs to be cleaned with a brush. Shooting many 2 &3/4" in a 3.5" chamber?


    Yes, Veduci, that would be me...you Putz! :D And now that you have discovered this forum you should cruise over and sign-up at the Shotgun World Forum.

  11. I have started to have a few problems with my SBE II whilst shooting at the range over the past several weeks. Before explaining, a bit of background.


    I have had the gun for about nine months now, and have shot everything through it from 1185 fps 1 oz estates to 3.5" Federal Blackcloud. While at the range I mostly shoot 1 oz Rios at 1200 fps (very clean burning, too, I might add). I have probably put about 2500 rounds of various sorts through the gun, mostly the lighter stuff.


    No here is the problem I have started to have. I load the first shell in the chamber and hit the bolt release. The shell is pushed into the chamber but sometimes, for whatever reason (I think the boltface may not be fully seating) the carrier will only push part way down and I can't load the second round in the mag. tube. I have to rack out the first round and start again. This happened again today with increasing frequency. And if I just loaded one at a time (i.e., as in shooting a single) sometimes all I would get when pulling the trigger was a click.


    I know this must be the sign of a dirty gun. But I recently cleaned out the recoil spring tube etc. (Probably about 350 rounds ago, although I will clean it again). And I have not used it for anything but clay target shooting since then (i.e., no burrying it in mud in a cornfield, etc.) The one thing I have not done (in fact, ever, I believe) is scrub the chamber really well with a copper brush and a variable speed drill--obviously something I can and will do.


    I am just a little bit curious, however, if this is a rather common problem? And if so is it most likely to be in the recoil spring assembly, chamber, or might something else be going on? I would sort of hate to have to mess with cleaning the action spring every 300-400 rounds.



  12. To anyone with their insight. I am looking to purchase a left handed semi auto shotgun, I am really looking at the SBE 2 I would like some feed back pros and cons on this gun. Thanks in advance!


    I have an SBE II LH and love it. There are mostly only pros to this gun: lightweight, 3.5" capacity, ability to reliably cycle even light target loads, comfortech stock (yes, I do thiink it helps when shooting the heavy stuff, at least relative to not having it), shims to adjust fit, etc. The gel cheekpad. Not to mention dead solid relability and absolute ease of maintaince.


    Are there any cons? Well, a bit more recoil than you get from a gas gun. I personally don't like the factory recoil pad and replaced it with a limbsaver. I also at times find it kind of awkward having all of the essential controls (i.e., bolt release and cocking handle) are on the right-hand-side of the receiver, which can be a bit awkward. Also, there is the infamous Benelli click thing. If you don't truly let the bolt slam shut or if the gun is bumped in a certain way, the bolt face won't properly seat. Pull the gun up to fire, and click...nothing happens (this happened to me once on a phesant hunt).


    All-in-all, this is IMHO the best all-round gun out there. I have used it for everything from doves to geese and back again. I also routinely use it to shoot skeet, trap, and the occasional round of sporting clays. It points great/fast, and I shoot it as well or better than anything else I have ever shot/owned. It is the best all-purpose gun I have ever owned and likely the best I ever will own, as in I have little if any desire to try and improve on the SBE II system.


    So go ahead and take the plunge. You won't regret it! :D


    Plus, what other choice do you have? If you truly want a LH model there is not a lot to choose from. An 1100 G3? A heavy gun that is still limited to 3" loads. A Charles Daley? Not bloody likely. A 935 Mossberg? Not a bad gun in some respects but certainly lacks the versatility of the SBE II, not to mention the simplicity. There is nothing else! This gun is in a class of its own, and I do not regret for a minute the scraping and scrounging I had to do to save up to buy one.


    Go for it!

  13. I've never felt it too bad, but my dad has an 11-87 and it doesn't kick nearly as bad but I don't think it is nearly as fast as the SBE2 or the SBE1 for that matter.


    Well, yes, the 11-87 will likely be a softer shooting gun for several obvious reasons, including gas operation and heavier weight etc. I would not want to take the SBE II to the range and stand there and shoot 3.5" loads all day--would be too much. But the only time I ever for sure felt the recoil in the field was when I decided to pull the trigger when the gun was mounted on my upper arm instead of in my shoulder pocket. Ouch! :( (Of course this also resulted in a miss as I was nowhere near lined up).


    Also, I prefer the limbsaver aftermarket pad to the ones that Benelli provides. Just my personal preference.

  14. Personal preference for sure. I went through the same decision process about a year ago. I finally settled on the black synthetic. I have no regrets at all...indeed, any problems I had with decoy shy ducks/geese were really not related to the color of the gun! :(

  15. I am considering getting a few extended choke tubes for use in my SBE II in the clay game applications. I own some briley choke tubes I use in an old 11-87 and have no complaints about these. But I have also read that some seem like the Comp-n-Choke choke tubes in a Benelli. I am curious what others are using and whether or not they like/prefer what they are using relative to, say, the flush factory tubes.

  16. Okay, truth is for me the best all-purpose gun I own is my Benelli SBE II. It is probably too light to be a seriously dedicated sporting clays gun, but that did not seem to be the question that was posed by the OP. Mine will cycle everything from 1 oz loads on up without a hitch. It will even cycle the hot 7/8ths oz Remington Gun Club loads. I also do pretty well with it shooting skeet low gun (break the occasinal 25-straight) and it is fun to shoot sporting clays with once in a while. I have also used it with great success hunting doves, crows, ducks, geese, phesants, etc. The only downside is recoil is a bit more noticable, then, say my 11-87s, but it does everything I ask of it and then some. Money well spent IMHO.

  17. I shot both the Vortex, and the Kicks Hi-Flyers this year, both to great effect. The vortex is deigned for use with the black cloud ammo, as it doesnt strip the wad like many chokes do. The Hi-flyer is for use with "conventional" ammo. I shoot the Vortex and Hi-flyer IC in the timber with 3" #3's and Use both in MOD with 3 1/2 #2's out in the rice fields. The only issue I've had with any of these combinations is that the Federral Black Cloud has got to be some of the dirtiest stuff I've ever shot. The Fiocchi 31/2" #2's are a heck of a lot cheaper and in my opinion a whole bunch cleaner. And yes, the 3 1/2's kick, but I changed recoil pads and went with the Limbsaver on the SBE II. It makes a world of difference.


    Thanks for the info on the Vortex tube. I have not actually heard of anyone (until now) who has used one. Have you put this on the pattern board yet? Just curious.


    Also, I agree that Black Cloud is very dirty stuff. After the goose season was over the recoil spring in the buttstock of my SBE II just made a funny crunching noise when retracted. A careful cleaning put it back to right, however.


    I think I am going to check out the Vortex tubes this coming season. Any excuse to buy a few more gadgets and trinkets! :D

  18. i dont shoot that black cloud that often, heard it ruins barrels and chokes...:confused:



    Hmmm...interesting. This is something I have not heard. Why this more than, say, Hevi-shot? Any more specifics?


    This past year I used blackclould BBB on geese with good results through a Cabela's hevi-shot modified choke (which I think is actually IC for lead shot) tube.


    I am wondering if there is much experience out there yet with the Kicks Vortex choke tubes.

  19. Recoil? I feel more shooting 150 rounds with it at the range than 5-10 3.5" loads in the field. I actually think this comfortech stuff works, or at least more or less helps, with these heavy loads.


    Anyone else shooting Federal Blackcloud in your SBE II? If so, what choke make/configuration are you using? Just curious.

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