Reggio
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I don't think registration or any other hoops governments make purchasers jump through is an inconveniece. I gladly submit to a background check. For a tool as valuable as a firearm, any person with the right priorities would go through any inconvenience to own one.
The problem is the registry itself. It is a gross violation of privacy, and a continuous threat to the right to own a firearm. Where there is a registry, there is a list of gun owners that could be used if confiscation were ever initiated. (In almost every case, confiscation has been the ultimate use of gun registry data.) At the very least, the data can be used to compromise the privacy and personal security of gun owners; like some local registries have in US.
While Canadians may or may not consider self-defense a right (never lived in Canada and haven't visited in the past 18 years, so I haven't got a finger on the "pulse" of the Canadian citizenry) most Americans do. The very idea of a gun registry sends chills down my spine. I hate thinking about the information the BAFTE already has that can tie firearms to their owners in the US.
An overwhleming majority of Cdns do NOT own guns for self defense... and most do not even consider it an option.
Unless you're living in rural Canada, (about 20% of the pop) the vast majority of Canadians are not very comfortable with guns in general.
It's more like Europe here in that people like the idea (in principle) of tight, restricted ownership and limited use of fire arms. Gun ownership in Canada per capita is much lower than the U.S.
In sum, the "right to bear arms" philosophy is very limited here...
hunting is also declining as as a recreational activity, although I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case in the U.S. as well...
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Well he said he could have hooked me up with a Beretta 301 semi if I'd had waited... I suppose a Beretta isn't a bad alternative!
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A family friend said I should have gone with a semi-auto Benelli. He said for waterfowl (faster) and just plain convenience the semi is better... Plus, it has a bit less recoil
Thoughts? I only put down a deposit so I could go with the semi. What is the semi equivalent?
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Welcome to the Benelli Family! Hope you are talking 700 Canadian..
Either way Congrats.
Ya, 700 CDN - BUT our dollar is basically on par with the US dollar now... 96 cents!
the basic black stock is a lot cheaper and I don't know why... $520 (+tax)
Is $100 extra for the camo justifiable? I was debating as to whether I should even go with the camo or black... the dealer encouraged me to go with camo. Said it was better for turkey and duck
what are your opinions?
I can't wait to start firing!!!
thanks for your help...
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Hey guys,
I finally made a decision and went with the Nova Pump...Advantage MAX-4 HD®, 12-GA!
I put a deposit down but I couldn't bring it home cause I'm still waiting on Federal papers that allow us Canadians to buy and posses..
thanks for all you help... i cannot wait to bring her home...
btw, I paid $700 (tax in) for the camo. I cost $100 more than the black stock.
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This is the latest post I got from a Canadian website I frequent. It's actually more of a fishing site...
You are right about not having to use 3.l5" shells but then you are still lugging around a HEAVY 3.5" chambered shotgun for "upland" game.
BELIEVE me....I speak from EXPERIENCE.....you want a FULLY RIFLED Cantilever mount barrel for shooting slugs. I don't care if you get homemade shotgun.......if your truly interested in shooting slugs a fully rifled barrel is like night and day from a smooth bore barrel........I have had some of the best in smooth bores....a Browning vs Mossberg rifled barrel and the Mossy beat the smooth bore Browning hands down...
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I use the 3" Brenneke Black Magics right now for Bear Hunting but a 2-3/4" Black Magic will drop a deer no prob.
Glad you are finding this site Helpful! I love it when people get into the outdoors and especially when they start hunting! Have fun making your choices and do a little research on some sites that carry slugs such as Federal, Hornady, Winchester, Remington, Brenneke, and anything else your search engine will turn up. Your research has just begun!
Good Luck Hunting and Be Safe!
I just checked out that Brenneke site. I got some good info. I wonder if they're available up here... I know we have federal, Remington and Winchester.... I'll look forward to shopping for these when the time comes! I'm sure I'll have a new round of questions for you guys by then!! LOL!
thanks
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This may have been addressed already, but are you using the 3" with the slugs?
Thanks
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This will be reason enough for me. It's not Benelli, but it may be even better and a lot less expensive.
http://www.badgerbarrelsinc.com/ShotGBarrles.htm
But like other's have stated, you can get deer with a smoothbore.
Interesting... Only $210 for the Nova rifled barrel. I thought it would be more expensive. So I suppose that's an option if I want to switch to a riffled bore.
The only issue is that I am in Canada and I doubt I'd get that kind of a price up here. I am not even sure they're available here, but I'm sure there are other alternatives.
Well, from the sound of it, seems like you Benelli owners don't feel the need for the rifled barrels. And you're right; most shots will be within 75 yards making the regular slugs/barrels similarly effective.
This is great... I'm learning more and more!!
And to those who've asked where in Canada I reside, I am in the Toronto area, so close to lots of urbanity! But Ontario (our province) is an awesome place to hunt.. and we now even have an excellent turkey hunt... which is recent b/c turkeys were extirpated.
Hey guys, thanks a lot for you info/help... I very much appreciate it!!
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I recently purchased a 12Ga SuperNova smoothbore, with APG camo. Plan on hunting deer with slugs and maybe move to a Badger rifled barrel and scope (much) later.
Very pleased so far. The weight is the same as an 870 and the recoil seems less with the comfortec stock, but then I'm comparing to MY gun now. I have not fired any mags or supermags yet. Our deer season has not started yet.
A great gun. Not the cheapest, nor the most expensive gun ever made., but they are good lookers and should definetly get the job done.
Happy hunter here.
Go for it.
The smooth bore is what both the Nova and SN come with, correct? What type of slug would you fire out of it? What about buckshot?
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I am an avid deer hunter and you don't need Sabot slugs to accurately take down a deer. I have dropped many deer with buckshot. Please don't take offense to this but you sound new to deer hunting, unless you live in a state that only permits the hunting of deer with a shotgun or you are hunting areas that you would need to make 150 to 200 yard shots than yeah you would want to get a Slug Gun and your biggest worry next will be the multiple hundred dollar scope that you are going to attach to your shotgun to even make those shots possible. But you listed off a bunch of game which made me believe that you wanted versatility. I will be using my SuperNova for all of my stands that are setup for 100 yard or less shots and my rifle for hunting open territory. What range do you picture yourself shooting deer at?
Furthermore to "properly take down" a deer you need to place a shot in the vitals, spine, or break their front shoulders which would also most likely hit the vitals- in other words make a clean shot. You can use many different loads other than slugs on deer such as Buckshot. You get into the thick woods with some 3.5" 00 or 000 buckshot and you are going to drop a deer with a well placed shot. You are going to def need to get out there and pattern your gun for each ammo you decide to use for each of the game you have specified that you will be going after this fall before going out into the field.
Best of luck and I hope you make a good choice...and don't forget about rifled chokes like the one I use on my SuperNova from Carlon's Chokes that gives me 1/2" groups at over 50 yards with Brenneke Black Magic 3" 600 gr slugs which were made for smooth bore or rifled barrels (That's right 1/2" groups at over 50 yards through a smooth bore barrel with a rifled choke- so there is a reason to get the smooth bore Nova or you could just buy the Nova with a rifled barrel). I use Black Magics for Hunting Bear, and I trust my life with them. Maybe down the road you will be ready for a Benelli, but you came to a place that has people that live for Benelli and have it running through their veins, so what shotgun company did you expect for recommendations from here?
Happy Hunting and Be Safe!
Yup VERY NEW - as in a rookie. I am in Canada and I have yet to go on my first hunt. You seem to have a wealth of knowledge... most people are swaying me to go with a riffled barrel but I'm interested in what you have to say. I need to learn more about smooth bore vs riffled and buckshot vs slugs... I've even read a few articles from Field and Stream and the like and they discourage buckshot
I will take my time... and continue to research. I don't want to buy another gun so I want to be happy!
btw, are you using the 3.5 shells with buckshot or 3?
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Get the SuperNova, or at least the Nova. You will be happy, and hellll your leaning towards a Benelli anyways, you did join the forum for advice from Benelli owners. You are basically begging to be talked into getting the gun you really want! So cut the crap and get yourself the real deal. Go with the Nova, and if you like that pay a little more and get the SuperNova....You will not regret it and for a little piece of mind, I take all species with my SuperNova that I have the opportunity at. It has not failed to take Turkeys, Partridge/Woodcock/Pheasant, Coyote, Porcupine, Squirrels (Red and Gray), Canada Geese, Ducks...you get the point and that has just been since May 2009.
Happy Hunting and be Safe!
I'll tell you what' holding me back from the Benelli and making me lean toward a Moss or Rem combo - NO RIFFLED BARREL - and the more I read the more I realize that to properly take down a deer you need a rifled barrel with sabot slugs... I don't want to spend $400 additional dollars on top of the 550 for the Nova.. so I am probably not going to go with it... the accuracy is lacking otherwise... and I will target deer.
I'd someone can give me a really good reason to change my mind, feel free...
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I have 2 novas (one 12 one 20 gauge). I also have a Supernova. Love all three. It really is a ''do all gun''. The only reason I have three because I wanted a 20 for doves and my Supernova is set up for turkeys and yotes. Can I do everything with 1. Yes.
Good luck with your choice. I would buy the Nova or supernova over the 870 or 535.
Is there really much difference between the Nova and the Supernova? I suppose the recoil is a bit nasty with 3.5" on the Nova.. is it much better withe the super since it claims to mitigate the kick back?
Thanks guys!
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You Ontarians are lucky with your Turkey hunts as the rest of Canadian hunters envy you. Can you shoot Turkey with lead shot? I don't know the rules in Canada about that.
You are correct about the 3.5" availability in the Nova. I believe when they first came out, they only held 3" but Benelli upgraded them to take the 3.5" but don't quote me on that. One thing that the SuperNova has over the Nova Pump is not only a better stock but it comes with a shim kit letting adjust your drop and cast. If you plan to hunt Deer with a slug barrell, you won't have to worry about chokes. I was under th impression that was your plan. I personally would only hunt Deer with a slug barrell myself unless you want to try "OO" Buck Shot with your mod choke shot barrell. I personally have not experienced or tried this and perhaps someone else on this forum could help you clear that ???
Nontheless, no matter what Benelli you buy, you can't go wrong. The SuperNova is an upgrade from the Nova Pump but both are top performers.
I thought you could shoot slug with IC choke? I am not really interested in buying a barrel that might cost me the equivalent of the gun in price... If I can't take a variety of game with the current set up (either nova or supernova) then I might just go for the Mossy... i don't mind spending a couple hundred more but as long as that means I don't have to start fiddling around with more barrels...
Thanks guys!
And as far as Ontario gobblers go, yes, you can get em with lead , if I'm not mistaken... its the migratory waterfowl that must be taken with steel.
cheers
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I do live in Ontario. The Nova is a 3.5" - same as the Supernova
So the three chokes provided won't take all the above mentioned game? I thought the IC and the Med will do for deer and upland and the full will cover turkey. I must say that it's a bit confusing with all the different applications... Will the extra barrel be more of a luxury down the road? I'd rather have quality over after market accessories. I like to keep things simple and other than a scope, I don't know what else I'd buy right now... maybe an extra choke or two down the road (X full?)
As for the need for recoil cushioning, that applies to the 3.5 correct? If I use 3" recoil won't be as much of an issue?
Thanks for the reply...
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Hi folks,
So I've narrowed down my search to three guns. I am new to hunting and just got my license. I am in Ontario, Canada.
Well, I've heard much about lots of guns especially the 870 Rems and the Mossbergs (500 series). I an looking for a pump action to target multi species. I am not sure what I will end up targeting most so I want a very versatile and adaptable firearm.
I know the 535 Moss is very versatile. The combo can be adapted for many uses be it turkey, waterfowl, upland game or deer. And, it's very well priced. The 870 is also good, apparently, but maybe a bit more expensive that the 535.
I'd like to target all of the above; deer, turkey, grouse, rabbit, duck and geese. Is the Benelli Nova a good "all-around" gun? Can it be used under many different conditions targeting all of these species? I'd like an honest, objective opinion. I am willing to spend more for the Benelli because I've heard these guns are very good and sturdy. Perhaps I will not need to upgrade... whereas with the Mossbergs I am not so sure.
How is this gun for turkey and deer and upland game? I know it's good for waterfowl...
If I do buy it, will it come with the chokes that will let me target these species or will I need to spend some $$ to buy a rifled barrel for deer slugs?
what about recoil and weight? It seems like a fairly heavy gun..
I appreciate any input! Thanks in advance!
Reggio
Picking up my Nova Pump today!! Shells???
in Benelli
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Hey folks,
My federal permit (Canada) FINALLY arrived in the mail today!! Yes!
My Nova is waiting for me at the gunshop!
What shells should I pick up? I prbabably won't bother witht the 3.5 yet.. stick with 3"?
Brands?
Thanks guys! Can't wait to fire her...