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A question regarding a new production M4, without the pistol grip stock (just the solid non-pistol grip stock that we would see on any typical rifle): 1. Does the stock unscrew the same easy way that any of the pistol grip stocks come off? 2. Does it come with a recoil tube that has the 3-position detents, even though they are not visible or usable with that stock? 3. Do all the barrels have the threads on the muzzle that are necessary for attaching chokes on the end of the barrel, or do you have to look for that specific option on only some rifles? Thanks again so much.

My question: Did any of the current run of Commemorative M1014's (with the American Flag) come with an actual operable collapsible stock? Or are all of them, regardless of which State in the country they are for sale in, have the look-a-like collapsible stock, with a smooth recoil tube without any detents, and a butt that is pinned so that the normal release button is present, but is not able to be pushed or operated? Thanks again for your time. A seller online states that his Commemorative with the American Flag engraved on the receiver, and "M1014" stamped on the receiver where other models have the stamp "M4", in fact has a completely operable collapsible stock. It is therefore not legal in California. I have not seen that before, and the factory stickers on his box have all the same product numbers as the Commemoratives that are for sale in California. Thanks again for your time.

StrangerDanger! Another separate question regarding a new production M4, without the pistol grip stock (just the solid non-pistol grip stock that we would see on any typical rifle): 1. Does the stock unscrew the same easy way that any of the pistol grip stocks come off? 2. Does it come with a recoil tube that has the 3-position detents, even though they are not visible or usable with that stock? 3. Does the barrel have the threads that are necessary for attaching chokes on the end of the barrel? Thanks again so much.

StrangerDanger! Once again, you are the best authoritative source I can find on Benellis. My question: Did any of the current run of Commemorative M1014's come with an actual operable collapsible stock? Or are all of them, regardless of which State in the country they are for sale in, have the look-a-like collapsible stock, with a smooth recoil tube without any detents, and a butt that is pinned so that the normal release button is present, but is not able to be pushed or operated? Thanks again for your time. A seller online states that his Commemorative with the American Flag engraved on the receiver, and "M1014" stamped on the receiver where other models have the stamp "M4", in fact has a completely operable collapsible stock. It is therefore not legal in California. I have not seen that before, and the factory stickers on his box have all the same product numbers as the Commemoratives that are for sale in California. Thanks again for your time.

Excellent. Understanding #3 well is going to have to wait until I receive my Urbino. Still waiting for that to arrive. I'll understand it better once I can see it for the first time.

Thanks for the awesome detailed tutorial. Huge help for everyone. I do have a couple questions: 1. Since I'm doing this to replace the neutered Receiver Extension with a new one that works with the C-Stock as designed, and I presume I'm going to have to buy that new Extension as an already-assembled complete assembly, do I have to disassemble the interior of that new assembly before installing it, or can I just screw it in and start with the "Timing" of the Receiver Extension? (I understand your reasoning for disassembling the old one before applying heat). 2. When you use the term, "Timing" when talking about installing the Receiver Extension, I presume you mean making sure that it's screwed in to the point where once the rear portion of the stock is locked into any one of the three positions, it's precisely aligned vertically in relation to the Receiver? It seems the method you describe is the only way for one of us to do that at home... presumably the factory has some hugely expensive jig that allows them to do mass production accurately. It'd be nice to design an inexpensive tool for that. 3. In the quote below, you refer to having trouble with the Mesa Tactical Urbino Stock. I do not understand the reference. FYI, my plan is to use that Mesa Tactical stock when I'm in California, and then easily remove it and screw on the C-stock when I'm in other Western states that allow it. I'm assuming that's a realistic plan, but I'm hoping to understand your reference before I go in to a huge amount of work and expense. "Side note: This is the part that gets people into trouble with their Mesa Tactical Urbino stock. Once you realize how little torque is required to remove the Stock Retention Screw from the receiver extension, it is easy to see how Locktited screws will back the Stock Retaining Screw out. The amount of torque applied is no match for the cheap snap-ring to contain." 4. Incidentally, does the Mesa Tactical Urbino stock screw on to the neutered Receiver Extension that I'm planning to remove? I'm not removing the neutered extension until I can get the new one, and that may be a while. I'd like to use the Urbino in the meantime. Once again, thanks for the time.

Thanks again for the awesome detailed answer. Thanks for the time and effort.

I'm attempting to comply with 922r, and part of that is educating myself on triggers. Maybe you guys can help me. 1. Geissele: It appears it doesn't matter how good this one is, as they don't maker them anymore? 2. Briley: As always, the website sounds great, but like the others, I know nothing about them. I'm a noob. I did observe that they require you to send in the trigger group, and they do the install. Not sure if this is good or bad? 3. benelliparts.net: I'm curious who actually manufactures their triggers. Is it the same people making triggers for FFT, or does everyone do their own thing? 4. FFT: Same question... who makes their triggers, and how do they perform over time. They're the only ones I saw mentioning trigger pull in pounds, and they say it's reduced from 8.25 lbs to 6.25 lbs. Thanks for any guidance, and maybe names of other companies I should be looking at.

Thanks so much. I have the California version of the M1014. Although it looks like it has a C-Stock, and the Butt itself is genuine, the Recoil Tube does not have any detents at all, and will not function in any way as part of a C-Stock. I'm wondering if I need to replace the entire Recoil Tube Assembly, or can I just get the Tube, and move over the Spring and other interior parts? On the Midwest site you referenced above, it appears that Product Code 70043 is the entire assembly, while Product Code 70130 is just the Tube? I'm surprised at the minor price difference between the two... The cost of the entire assembly on benelliparts.net is $199. Just curious.

Thanks so much for responding. It'll be great to get back to normal. Other than benelliparts.net, are there a lot of places to buy this thing?

Hey Guys! I've been waiting a while to hear from Antoine at benelliparts.net, about getting an M4 3-position recoil tube. They're out of stock, and Antione is not currently returning phone calls, which he previously did in a very timely fashion. He seems like he's very attentive to his customers, so I'm a little concerned about his failure to get back to me. Does anyone know if there's a problem over there, other than the current craziness with the virus response? Also, does anyone have any ideas on where I can currently get a Factory Benelli M4 3-position Recoil Tube Assembly? Thanks for the help!