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  1. I am not happy at all with B's.  My firing pin will not contact half of the 6 I recieved yesterday.  The white primers are set in too far.  Quality control not good at all.  Bought these so I woukd not dry fire gun and did anyways.

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  2. I just recieved mine on Friday after 1.5 month of waiting.  I was moved up the list because I prepaid in full and my dealer had only ordered two M4s.  When ordered I was told 1900+ guns ahead of me and a expected 4 + month wait time.  2 weeks ago i was informed it shipped to the dealer because the local rep was filling purchased order and not dealer orders for stock.  When I picked up the gun I was then told the backorder is over 4000 and Benelli has stopped taking new orders until they fulfill the backlog (can not confirm if thats ture but thats what i was told.).

  3. About 3 month ago I was looking at the Benelli M4 in  Cerakote finish.  2 months ago I ordered it. But now within the last week I see Benelli change the website picture.  Which gun is coming?  The new picture shows a lot less titanium color on it.  Trigger frame, top rail, receiver internals and front ring. 

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  4. 10 hours ago, StrangerDanger said:

    The Cerakote model has phosphate beneath the paint job. The naming of the finish leads a lot of people to believe it is some special finish. Titanium refers to the color of the Cerakote, not some kind of special blend of herbs and spices suspending titanium for some benefit. 

    The shop doing the paint work for Benelli likely roughed up the phosphate on the steel parts with blast media before painting it and oven curing the parts. On the aluminum receiver, I have not seen signs of the anodizing being removed prior to painting. I’ve polished off areas of the Cerakote around the loading port when doing port jobs and haven’t seen signs of the blasting beneath it. If they are, it’s really soft soda blast to remove oils and that’s about it. 
     


     

     

    With what is currently avaiable which is a better product?  Shouldmi save the money and use it to buy extras.  On another note my plan is to keep upgrading and improving over time, which finish would give me that ability.  2 or 3 years from now do I run the chance of not finding parts that match the H2O?  Buying the gun and adding the extras cannot happen for me right now $$$$$.

  5. On 11/7/2019 at 8:33 PM, StrangerDanger said:

    Scout and Evolution covered most of it. The only thing I'd caution is Benelli did a bit of a bait and switch with the H2O models. The original H2O was NP3 plated. The current ones are Cerakoted to look like they're NP3 plated. Cerakote does pretty good at protecting the finish, but it does not have the embedded teflon substrate that makes it function without lubrication. The Cerakote models didn't even paint the small moving parts because Cerakote isn't really good for that. It's too thick and uneven of a finish that will cause tolerance stacking issues.

    I just sent my first batch of parts out today to Wright Armory. They're picking up where Robar left off for getting the plating done with CTL. CTL won't deal with the little people directly. I tried to send batches of a few thousand parts in and it wasn't enough for them to bother with me. We'll see how it goes with Wright Armory. The owner has been working with me directly to get everything lined up like the chemical stripping for the aluminum parts.

    For fun, I sent a good portion of my Dillon 650 in with this batch to get it plated. Including the main ram, shell plates, most of the screws, primer system and so on. My 650 is pretty tricked out with aftermarket parts like a Mr. Bullet Feeder. I process a lot of pistol brass with it. So anything to help keep it running smooth and grit free is a huge benefit. If you have one, you know they're prone to rusting, so it'll be a good upgrade for it.

    I sent in a client's high end AR15's. A close quarters model, and a long range precision build with a Nightforce optic. Carbon fiber wrapped barrels on both. Lithium aluminum receivers and so on. I disassembled the JP Enterprises silent buffers and sent all the parts for plating. I even took the UBR stock apart and sent the steel internal parts and screws in.

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    Another issue with the Benelli H2O's is they didn't plate as much as they should have. They left a lot of the parts unfinished which hurt its performance and resistance to corrosion. They didn't plate the ARGO system at all or the rear sight assembly. Its nice being able to send your accessories in to get everything matching too.

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    I just purchased a new M4 in titanium cerakote.  Can someone point me to a thread or take the time to explain which is better currently with what's avaiable in 2020 being titanium cerakote or the anodized black aluminum with phosphate barrel?  Its on back order and I believe I can still modify my order.

    Thanks

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