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    hello-quick intro

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    7 hours ago, snman said:

    Thank you!! Yes, LOTS of useful info!!

    I picked up two..I didn't want to modify anything, but that only goes so far.

    I have the M1014 / 11701 and the 11707.

    Man!  I can see you don't do anything halfway.  Why buy one when two is better??

    Date of manufacture code

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    Good info. 

    On 4/2/2021 at 6:29 PM, benelliwerkes said:

    The 18.3 is the metric diameter of the bore, 18.3 mm = 12 gauge.

    PSF =Polvere Senza Fumo = Italian for smokeless powder gun proof mark.

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    Nice info.  The M4 has no proof markings on the barrel.  They are on the receiver.  Wonder why?

    Why buy 5+1 if you want 7+1

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    On 4/2/2021 at 11:01 AM, gm2376 said:

    is this post for real? You realize that the 7+1 with collapsible stock is nearly impossible to find right?

    You have to specifically request one and then they are not impossible to find.  Settling for a 5+1 and a fixed stock lets Benelli know that they can continue selling those and then make real buck on the upgrades (as can Freedom Tactical.  Wonder if they are affiliated with Benelli's owner group?).  Always follow the money. 

    Why buy 5+1 if you want 7+1

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    1 minute ago, rubicon20032003 said:

    Cause there more of them made to be compliant in some states .That’s why probably ..Cant you figure that out on your own?

    Apparently not.  But now I know, thanks to your remarkable insight. 

    Why buy 5+1 if you want 7+1

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    2 minutes ago, rubicon20032003 said:

    So whats purpose of these post ?think everyone knows all that already .Or can figure that out 

    Good question.  I don't think people do know that 7+1s are available to those that ask, otherwise they would not buy 5+1s.  

    I'm reminded of Martin Guitars.  Excellent guitars, but they set a minimum price at which their dealers can advertise.  Newbies often think that this is the lowest price that the guitar is available.  Wrong.  The dealer can sell it for any price he wants.  Just can't advertise it.

    I think shotgun newbies think they can only get 5+1s.  That is not correct, you just have to ask. 

    Why buy 5+1 if you want 7+1

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    Posted · Edited by Zipperhead
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    I see that a lot of people buy Benelli M4s with a 5+1 capacity and then jump through expensive hoops to increase capacity by 2 shells.  Wouldn't it be easier to just buy a 7+1 for $100 more and be done with it?  I'm guessing that people just like to fiddle with their firearms (I certainly do), but why buy a product that doesn't fit your needs without performing expensive modifications?  Are 7+1 M4s really so hard to find?  I wanted an 11715 because it had the night sights, 7+1 magazine, and adjustable stock.  I sent e-mails to dozens of places letting them know that I was ready to purchase.  Within 2 weeks I received a call letting me know that one was available.  $100 over MSRP.  Not awful considering that the BLM riots were at their peak.  The guy said they had received 9 11715's and he had sold them all within 30 minutes to people he knew were ready to buy.  

    Date of manufacture code

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    Posted · Edited by Zipperhead
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    While you're here, and, for what it's worth.  The CIP S code next to the date code means "Superior smokeless powder proof for smoothbore guns".  Haven't figured out what the first of the three markings means yet.  Educated guess is that it's "Distinctive hallmark of the Gardone Val Trompia Test Bench affixed to all guns" marking.  The Italians are serious about their firearms.

    Date of manufacture code

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    4 hours ago, alpha 33 said:

    Just curious but can the date of manufacture be determined by ser#?????????? I have receiver ser# Y020350..........

    Not sure.  On the left side of the receiver at the front of the trigger guard, there are three stacks of symbols.  The third symbol is the date code in a square box.  Will have two letters, or recently, two numbers.

    Date of manufacture code

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    I'll venture two guesses to my own question.  1.  In late 2020, Benelli dropped the letter code for a numerical code.  2.  Numerical code used for firearms manufactured specifically for the US market.  That's all I've got.  Do any of you folks have the numerical code for the date of manufacture?

    Date of manufacture code

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    I was at the LGS yesterday and they had 8 M4's in stock.  They were all 5+1 with a fixed stock.  I was surprised to see that many in stock (as they had previously been out of stock for months) and wondered if they were all from the same production "batch".  I checked the date code on the guns and was interested to see "20" on about half of them and "21" on the other half (meaning, I guess, manufactured in 2020 and 2021).

    I thought all Italian made guns had a letter code designating the date manufactured.  For example, my M4 manufactured in 2020 has the code "CZ".  Why would the guns I saw have the numerical date instead of a letter code?  Were they not assembled in Italy?  Thanks.

    Ammunition For Benelli m4

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    I've found that anything over 1,200 fps with 1 1/8 ounce of shot works fine.  I've never had a problem with 1 once of shot at 1,290 fps or 1 1/8 ounce of shot at 1,250 fps.

    An ad I saw showed 1,200 fps and 1 1/8 ounce was the recommended minimum for the M4.  Plenty of fairly priced low brass loads hotter than that.

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