profeti

Yes, very strange indeed... [ 02-17-2005, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: profeti ]

To be slander an oral statement must be false. The word you're looking for is libelling. And, again, to be libel a publication (i.e. something one can look at, like printed words or pictures) must be false. An Arkansan could be forgiven for not knowing the difference, I suppose. But, my sac and I thank you for the admiration none the less.

mudhen: thanks. I'll stop by Canyon Sports EFLOYD: Er... Where do I order a girl like that?!

mudhen, Perhaps I should have said "I Really wanted that Nova...." My post wasn't intended to be a dig at Benelli's product and I don't think that taken in context the line, even as written, could fairly be construed as a dig at the firearms. If there's a dig in my post directed at Benelli, it relates to their vetting of their dealers. Ironically, I went in with high expectations based on this reply by Nelli Girl to a comment of yours: emphasis added Admittedly, my experience with this particular dealer has given me pause. But, as I indicated previously, I'm willing to give it another shot. As noted, I'm in the product design biz and can recognize good ID when I see it, it's certainly there with Benelli. And, I'm hoping that the engineering and manufacturing will prove to be as good. Haven't actually shot a Benelli yet, which is why I wanted the Nova, so I could get a close up look. I find that a company's lowend products are a good place to judge commitment to quality (the trivial price doesn't hurt either.) I apologize if I offended you by my earlier posts, I'm not trying to start a fight. Just want a nice pump shotgun to bust some clay and maybe find a brand that I can enjoy collecting.

The issue with this gun was not wear. It was two, centimeter square, nicks on the magazine. The gun had been damaged pure and simple. And given the attitude of the dealer the damage was probably done by them. They tried to say it arrived that way form Benelli a couple of days ago, this was an outright lie. I was there 10 days earlier watching the guy write the serial number on my receipt. mudhen: If you're not a discerning consumer...well, that's your business. No one is forcing you to read or comment here so save the snarkiness. I'm just trying to find a good dealer in my area. [ 02-13-2005, 07:09 PM: Message edited by: profeti ]

SBE Joe: I was unaware that Cabela's carried Benelli. We don't have any retail stores here in CA that I'm aware of, and apparently that's the only way to get firearms from Cabela's. Any further info would be appreciated though... GB: Thanks! Maybe I'll PM you in a couple of days. (I guess I need to do a little more research though.) Turkey: The notion that defects out of the box should be overlooked is, IMO, obscene. I own a product development/manufacturing company and know quite well how difficult quality control can be in a mass production environment. But we insist that our resellers exchange, on the spot, any defective unit and do the same in our retail operations. If a company doesn't take pride in their products (or services) there's really no reason to do business with them as far as I'm concerned. Now, I'm not convinced that this is the case with Benelli, hope it's not. I've heard some very good things about their guns, even this lowend pump (Nova) which I'm currently interested in and I'm willing to give it another go...I think.

I went to pick up my new Nova pump today and was very disappointed to see two spots of bare steel on the magazine. I pointed them out to the dealer and said it was unacceptable to have such defects on a new firearm. He first said it was "no big deal" and that "it would scratch up like that" from use anyway. I insisted that it was unacceptable and that they needed to repair or replace the Nova or give me my money back. After some grumbling, the dealer went in the back and returned a few minutes later and handed me the Nova. It was obvious that he had just run a permanent black marker over the spots, even that wasn't done very well! I pointed out that that was BS and that they needed to REALLY fix the gun or replace it. They refused. I finally got my money back after threatening to have the credit card charge reversed by my bank (and pointing out that would hurt their credit and they would incur a fee for the reversed transaction.) The most disappointing part is that this was a dealer referred by the BenelliUSA website (dealer info below.) I had spent some time here researching and saw a post by one of the moderators noting that BenelliUSA was very selective in choosing authorized dealers. I REALLY wanted a NOVA Pump and was already planning to purchase the NOVA H2O too. Now I don't know... Someone please help! Please refer me to a REPUTABLE Benelli dealer in the SF Bay Area. This is the dealer I had trouble with, needless to say I won't be buying anything from them...EVER: Imbert & Smithers 1144 El Camino Real San Carlos, CA 94070

HerbG, Thank you very much, I would have probably never thought of that! After checking out the prices on barrels I've decided to wait till I actually get my paws on the Nova (~7 more days) before making any purchase...

Thanks FN_FAL

This is probably a stupid question, but does it work the other way round? That is, will I be able to use a 18.5 barrel with my 12ga 3.5" Nova? (still in the waiting period, so I don't have it or the manual)