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  1. Follow the procedure recommended in the manual so we don't see you three months from now asking for help as to why your gun won't cycle XYZ shells. :D :D :D Good Luck with the gun ... nice choice!!! smile.gif

     

    [ 03-14-2006, 11:18 AM: Message edited by: Butch-M ]

  2. I'm not sure what you mean by "same category" Garren. If you mean are they still legally considered shotguns ... yes, that affirmative. They are shotguns. If you mean are rifled barrels and smoothbores shooting similarly, no they don't. The rifled barrel has at least double the potential of the smoothbore when it comes to slugs. I think you can probably tighten up those 5" 100 yard groups a bit with some experimenting with different slug brands and loads ... and some more practice pulling the gun into your shoulder and really gripping the fore-end. I feel that if you can get your groups down to 2" to 3" you can shoot with confidence out to 150-175 yards with a rifled slug barrel. I've hunted with guys who are comfortably taking deer out to 200+ yards. I hear you on slugs beating you up after a while at the benchrest.

  3. Thanks. I have an Encore smokepipe I've been toying with buying a slug barrel for in a quest for accuracy beyond the 100yd 3" groups I get from the SBEII. I know there probably isn't a direct correlation, but I'm always trying to add information as to whether the Encore is an inherently accurate platform or not to begin with. The .50 caliber muzzleloader is very accurate. That similar H&R single shot slug gun is quite accurate too ... for a slug gun. I'm also torn between working harder to improve my slug shooting technique, or trying a T/C barrel. Trouble is ... doing any amount of slug practicing beyond about 15 shots is punishing. Slugs seemingly being inaccurate by nature ... really plays with your head, and shooting confidence. Working hard and shooting 3" groups is just plain disconcerting; whether it's the nature of the beast or not! :(

  4. The information given above is right on target.

     

    If you're inexperienced with slugs, do yourself a favor and read what www.tarhunt.com. has to say about the differences in shooting techniques between rifles and slug guns. Click on "", then read through the stuff listed on the left margin.

  5. The sisterhood at work ,... ahey sarg??? LOL Tryn to geter the couch. ;)

     

    And ... men DON'T think ... that's the problem Tuck. :eek: Women think BEFORE the problem (at least this kind of problem.) Men just try to scratch their befuddled heads and stumble out of the mess they got themselves into. "What? ... me WORRY???" Just like this guy ... so desperate that he's on the internet hoping that one OTHER man in the gene pool ... somewhere on the planet ... can save his bacon. LOL Out of the 4,000 Benelli forum dudes ... the BEST proposal so far comes from ... SgtCathy???? We should be ashamed of ourselves! tongue.gif

  6. Perazzi ... for many years I kind of looked at them like I look at gold Rolex watches ... longingly. LOL I feared that "I would hate myself in the morning" if I talked myself into getting one. About ten years ago all of those impetuous thoughts left me. :D

     

    VERY Nice gun Tuck ... good to see one in the hands of someone who REALLY knows what it's all about! :cool:

  7. Another question ... has he had any experience with a gun with substantial recoil? If not, you may want to consider a 20ga, gas operated semi-automatic. Enough gun to grow with, yet soft shooting enough not to beat the kid up and make it an unpleasant experience. Capable of taking just about any game; as long as it's within range.

  8. I don't think that "I thought I told you I ordered that a while back, ...." is going to fly. For that kind of money; there's no way a woman forgets. You say $1,500.00 gun, she THINKS $1,500.00 sofa or something. I think the psychologists call it a a "memory association" thing. When she sees you fondling your new gun, and looks over at her old sofa ... bingo ... the little light bulb over her head goes on ... and you're toast. :eek:

  9. Upgraded??? Do I detect a bias here??? ;) ;) ;) A Browning A5 humpback handed down from my grandfather about a 1920 model ... Browning has lost the records on serial numbers that old. Still shoots great. A 1976 Browning B2000 w/three barrels that served long & hard. The 2004 SBEII with rifled barrel & scope; plus smoothbore, 5 crio chokes & a Rhino .660 turkey choke; is clearly superior as well as being more versatile. A 20ga Beretta A301 semi auto bought around 1986 for women & children to shoot. Nice gun for what it is. A Beretta O/U to which the SBEII does not equal for Upland game. :cool:

     

    This disregards all of the brain rattling cheap single barrels & side by side doubles that got passed around the neighborhood as I was growing up. :D

  10. What choke and shotgun shells were you using? And how close/far were your shots?

     

    I've only dropped a few crows that happened by when I was duck hunting. And ... I got into a group once at about 200 yards out in a field when I was moving through the woods for another woodchuck setup with my 22-250. Dropped one and the rest went insane ... after a couple more met their maker; they gave up their allegiance to the fallen comrades and took off. When I was a kid I chased those critters all over three mountains in the Catskills each weekend trying to shotgun one of them ... with zero success. I now use the owl decoy to keep birds out of the garden and the crow decoys are used as confidence decoys on my duck boat. :D Here's a link I picked up years ago ... www.crowbusters.com.

     

    [ 03-08-2006, 06:07 AM: Message edited by: Butch-M ]

  11. Well, Tuck ... I had one of those "too good to be true" rationalizations that the new and magical BOSS system was going to give me 1" groups out of a soft shooting .300 autoloader. smile.gif The whole gas operated automatic bent was to reduce recoil in my chosen caliber, not to increase firepower.

     

    Unfortunately there were no forums like this back when I made the purchase to find out from users how the system REALLY performed. :( I was making my decision mostly off the advertising literature and a few gun magazine articles. On paper the thing makes sense ... I mean written paper, not target paper. :D

     

    Alas ... the BOSS was more of a nightmare than a dream. :mad: They don't mention that it's deafeningly loud ... and infinitely "adjustable." is not necessarily a GOOD thing! There may well still be a MOA bullet/BOSS setting in the gun somewhere, but since the micrometer type muzzlebrake has ten numbers, each with ten subsettings ... you can imagine the shear number of shots required to find it. The gun’s probably about the same as the R1 ... but I frankly don’t feel like a confident “marksman” when I’m toting it through the woods. I always did with my bolt action .300. (Which I’m considering to take out of moth balls) LOL

     

    “If it sounds too good to be true ... it probably IS too good to be true!!!” smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

     

    [ 03-07-2006, 05:13 PM: Message edited by: Butch-M ]

  12. My opinion ... Sacrifice and get the SBEII. First off ... $400.00 over 15 years is only a 27 bucks a year difference. For 27 dollars you go from having a good gun ... to enjoying arguably the best autoloading shotgun in the world. I've never heard anyone lamenting that they should have purchased a LOWER model; but I've often heard someone wishing they would have bought the best when they had the chance.

     

    Second ... in this day and age ... that wood stock for waterfowl (foul weather) is outdated. And yes ... the comfortech is a great feature. Personally, I think somewhere over that 15 years, you'd be wishing you waited for the SBEII.

  13. Well, do you NEED a n new M2? Really NEED one, or is it new car fever?? Would/could you get more bang for your buck putting that $800.00 into something else? If you already have a Corvette in the garage ... would you seriously consider another one if it happened to be on sale???

     

    I'm trying to help you out here man ... I KNOW how the twisted mind rationalizes somethinng we like/want. LOL ;) ;) ;)

  14. I think I saw that "documentary." A classic case of flat out stupidity. Sort of like if Michael Moore was dumb enough to go cruising crime ridden neighborhoods to make his next gun control propaganda. Or, somebody swimming amongst feeding sharks. If the girl was so dumb as to not be able to make SOME sort of logical evaluation of the risks involved with invading an area loaded with 1,500lb carnivore on her own behalf ... they both received what any sane person would expect to happen.

     

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    Hopefully it will prevent other misguided souls from suffering the same fate; due to an unrealistic understanding of predators, their territory, and unarmed man's place in the food chain.

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