OldFlick
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I have Shaw barrels which are a little thicker walled than the new ones but have found both to shoot about the same. I have spend over a thousand rounds of slugs. If you are not trying to shoot over 125 yrds the Lightfields are great for accuracy, groups and performance. If trying for up to 200 yrds the Federal/Barnes perform great on deer, some guns shoot the great, some do not. The Winchester/Nolser are very accurate(punishing kick) but I have not used them in field. The Hornady/SST shoot great but I do not like the performance on deer.
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Yes, the SBE I is not a crio barrel. Call them w/order to insure the right choke comes.
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I am using Patternmaster tubes(w/3 1/2" Federal 00) and getting 50% in a 12" circle and rest close @ 50 yrds. I have tried this choke in many guns and about half shoot great, the others not so good. They have a return policy, worth a test.
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With luck they just used too short of screws. I have bedded the base with marinetex, including the screws when threads are bad. The only other option is to retap w/next larger screws and then enlarging the base holes. There is alot of metal on SBE's, the 11-87 mentioned is thin a base screws and only gives two threads w/48 thread screw. SBE's get 4 or 5 threads.
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He might not afford a gun, but might have stole one yesterday. On a note about cops/ military being bad shots, control of your emotions has alot to do with accuracy. A man could be a expert at the range and still be worthless in a emergency.
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Yes the barrels interchange. The newer barrels have a larger flange for the magazine lug but I think the forend will interchange. A SBE II forend will work on a SBE but I do not know if the reverse is true. With, at most, a little cutting and a SBE forend will Fit a SBE II
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I agree tucker301. Only thing I might add is anyone that does not know how they are going to react will be at the mercy of the intruder. It is not something to figue out at the time. When my airplane started to land in a war zone, I decided. Someone intruding into my house will recieve no mercy or warning and I will not loose any sleep.
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There is a post by "Winkelfish" that will help. Also Numrich has a "modified" fore end that they say is for slug barrels for $167. My parts manual that came w/SBE II lists the slug barrels parts and fore ends. The fore ends do not mention slug barrels the only difference is the material(wood/syn.) I think the one GunCrazyD is looking at is a SBE fore end and good luck finding one. A little bit of sanding or $167, I know my choice.
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****man 74, e-mails not going thru, [email protected]
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I am talking about firearm barrels, do not know about the rest. They all get hot and are affected.
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Barrel heating will affect your POI more than just remounting your barrel (provided nothing gets knocked).
Always sight your gun in with a cold barrel. Wait between shots for the barrel to cool. You going to be taking that shot with a cold barrel.
I have a 12 volt boat bilge blower with a long cord. It has a 4' hose on it. I plug it into my truck cigarette lights and put hose over barrel w/action open to cool the barrel.
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I do alot of playing w SBE slug barrels and Here is what I can tell you. The slug barrels made by ER Shaw(older) had no sights and were heavier walled than shot barrels. I have been told the newer barrels made by Benelli have rifle sights(a way to be sure which barrel)and are not as heavy. I do not own newer barrels but have been told they are same as shot barrel. I have not found a different part number for a slug forearm for a SBE II and have tried many sources. There is a different forearm for SBE which matches the dates Shaw made the barrel. Benelli has made their own slug barrel since the SBE II came out.
Now(sorry its soo long) the choices. The SBE forearm is shaped like a barrel on the mating surface. The SBE II forearm is "u" shaped. The SBE II also has tangs around the magazine ring and at chamber area. If you sand(grind) a SBE forearm in the barrel cannel to fit a Shaw slug barrel it will be loose feeling w/shot barrel. This is OK but it is alot of work. The good part of the SBE II forearm is you only have to make clearance at the top of the "u" shaped barrel chamber and the tangs hold the forearm tight on a shot barrel. I would try the slug barrel, it might work w/o changes, if not someone w/average skills can do the job. Send me a PM and I can send pics of my forearms
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That would be Federal/Barnes 2 3/4" expander tipped 3/4 oz slug. Pricey but accurate and effective.
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No problem. I just learned more. I made my SBE II forearm larger for a old style slug barrel. The II forearm is cut square for a barrel channel. This means you only have to angle the top to make extra clearnace. The SBE forearm is barrel shaped and makes for a bit of sanding/grinding to make channel larger.
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The slug barrels made by ER Shaw are thicker walled and need different forearm. Stock forearm can be opened up but will fit loose on shot barrel. The Shaw barrels do not have rifle sights. The newer Benelli barrels have rifle sights and are(I think) the same wall dia. as shot barrels and can use orginal forearm. The SBE and SBEII barrels will mix and match, the forearm is only problem.
As for finding one maybe someone else will chime in.
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I like the Federal Vital Shok(1 oz.) They shoot under 2" groups(5 shots) @100 yrds in all my guns. The Barnes bullet performs great. If you do not shot over 125 yrds. the Lightfield slugs shoot good and perform well. I have shot other slugs good but did not like the bullet performance. Shaw barrels will shoot most hi-tech slugs good but I look for bullet performace as a important factor. I have tested many Shaw barrels and they all shoot the same. I have owned 3 right hand and had two left hand ones made and all were top notch.
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I have found that the first shot after cleaning often is a "flyer". I only clean my slug barrels if I loose my average grouping, otherwise after season. I have shot 100's of rounds w/o loss of accuracy.
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It will work on a new SBEII. You need the old forearm or will have to open the barrel channel in new forearm. Also the tube cap on new SBE II hits the larger Shaw barrel, it goes on but bumps on the ridges of cap. I have a SBE & a SBE II and two Shaw barrels and mix them w/o problems.
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I think there is a old saying " When you pry my dead, cold hands from them".
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One SBE II/one SBE left hand, two Shaw rifled barrels and one 28" shot barrel. Rifled barrels have Kahles 3-12x56/Nikon 5.5-16x50 scopes. Shot barrel has Tasco pro poiint.
Browning Gold hunter, 30" w/ tasco pro point.
Browning BAR 280 rem w/Leupold 3-9x50.
Weatherby bolt action 30-06, LH, w/Leupold 3.5-10x50
Weatherby bolt action 7 MM mag, LH, w3.5-10x50 Leupold and Douglas barrel.
Two Knight 45 cal muzzleloaders w/ Swarovski 2.2-9x42 and Nikon 5.5-16x50 scopes.
Tarus 454, 8 3/4 barrel Raging Bull w/ Burris fastfire.
A pile of older precussion muzzleloaders.
Hoyt Katera, 70 lbs w/ Burris fastfire. A spare older Hoyt w/EOtech sight.
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I consider a good shot on a deer when it runs. A heart/lung shot does not kill instantly. A spine, neck, head shot drops a deer. When I hit a intrude I want to drop him. He can kill me if he lives for 2 seconds. That is why I will use shotgun for defense. I wants more buckshot than 00 has and personally will use smaller buckshot. As a side note I have killed two 800 lb+ moose(dropped on the spot) with a 140 grain/ 7MM bullet.
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What Novaking said. I do not think you will have any problems. I have hand load buckshot loaded at max pressure and almost 2 oz. of lead and have had no problems w/red dot sights. Keep the barrel clean as any plastic in bore will make the slug tumble. I would expect (from a clean gun and from a cool barrel) 3" groups @50 yrds.
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Under 50 yrds a smoothbore shoots good. It is after 50 that a rifled barrel shines, and a smoothbore often starts to tumble the slug.
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