SigsRus

Red Cobra, very nice choice of weapons. However, I dare say you're not going to carry either one of those around in your pants with a suppressor on it. If you need a babysitter for one of them though I'd be glad to take the job What sear do you have in the G36? SBEIIfan, like Cleric said, wait till you can worry about it, and if you want a gun to target shoot with or you plan to be a SEAL/SWAT member, get a Mk23. Otherwise, go to a range with your dad (or whoever you can) and start learning some practical guns. 75% of the SEALS I've talked to, along with a friend that is a SWAT team leader say they'd choose a Sig over the Mk23 even though it's a beautiful weapon. Practical wins out over the Ubergun man.

that's cool, all I can really say for breakin period is what I know from my Sigs, but I do know that after the first thousand rounds I've not had a single problem with mine My P220ST has about 4500 rounds through it and I've had a total of 2 hangs the whole time, one time was bad ammo (Speer I think it was??). A very good friend of mine has a Glock23 that he absolutely loves, as does a gentleman at my church. To each his own, and just from my experience, the Sig's take about 1000 to 1500 rounds to fully break in (and boy do they feel sweet when then do). I don't carry mine till after that point. Sheesh, though, if you want a gun that's freaking quirky, buy a Kimber. My little Eclipse Ultra shoots wonderfully, but I swear that thing is a booger before it's been worked in a little. I had all kinds of trouble with it for the first 750-1000 rounds. They're great weapons, but I wish Kimber would do something about the ramp in their guns from the factory. Mine's been custom polished with Winchester brass, haha.

I haven't used them, but I've been told really good things about the Brenneke stuff

The 226 and 229 (which I have 2 of) can also be chambered in .40 which is very adequate for kill purposes. I won't argue with rjbz2893 about Glock vs Sig, but I will say the Sig's are just as reliable (I've got a few to go by). As for the P245, great shooting gun, but I don't like the 6+1 capacity, and if you get the extended mag, you might as well have gotten a P220. My best friend carries a 245 and loves it. It shoots almost identically to a standard P220, but my P220ST has it for shooting ease because of the extra heft, which I personally think is a good thing in a gun as long as it's not excessive. Another thing for you to seriously consider is that some guns will fit your hands better than others. You may not like a Mk23 if you got to shoot it. I thought I'd hate the standard USP or the compact because I've never been a polymer fan after shooting a couple Glocks and an XD(no offense rjbz2893) but after shooting the HKs , I really liked the feel of them, not so for the larger variant.

Hmm. What's the diff with the S90 mechanically? Also, I am a little leary of buying online (for a firearm at least). Any sites that you prefer? I might go ahead with fixin up the old'n just for kicks. I kinda like a challenge. It does already have a scope (the Leupold I mentioned in opening the thread). What exactly did you need help with? [ 11-20-2005, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: SigsRus ]

Thanks, so you're in agreement with the guy that it's basically an M1 with different barrel/furniture? I've never owned a shotgun so I don't have a clue on these things, just what I've read. I've got a few Sigs (pistols), hence the ID, but I've decided for home defense I should learn shotgun with a tactical twinge to it. (I'd really like an MP5/10 conversion as well, but my bank account says hold the horsies for a while ) Am I to understand you said NO scopes?? I don't mind the price, I just normally don't buy used, but two pistols in the last month (Sigs of course) says I'd better go a little more conservative and learn about these things before going all out with an M4. (plus, it's a nice gun and it looked lonely). Sorry for the rambling, but my major concern is whether or not this is essentially the same mechanicals as an M1. I can take care of stocks/lightening, and may consider manufacturing a longer tube for it (8rd is standard I take it?).

It's a big beast. Have you ever handled one. Alot of guys compare it to a lighter version of a Desert Eagle. If I had a choice I'd go for the USP Tactical over a Mk 23 (price and size mostly) unless you plan on swimming in the swamp or the atlantic with it, hah. By the way, if you haven't looked at them yet, check out the Sig models (my first choice). I've got a small assortment, but if you're looking .45 ACP my P220ST is the smoothest factory gun I've ever had my hands on (really smoother than alot of modified 1911s, but it's a totally different feel).

Who knows anything about the old 121 SL 80. Any thought on one with an old Leupold VariX-III mounted on a weaver. Any and all information about them would be much appreciated. Guy at the local shop told me I can mount M1 hardware to it?? Says it's the same reciever, action, etc...... Whoever's got info please help!!! Don't know whether to think about putting the pistol grip on it. Judging by other's mention of cycling problems resulting from weight gains and the fact that it already has the scope and heavy wood furniture, well, you get my drift. Is this thing worth $800 or so?? and should I bother with the thing at all or ditch it? Seems like a well built gun. and has the HK marks on it from when they imported it. Thanks Steve [ 11-19-2005, 02:02 AM: Message edited by: SigsRus ]

Yeah man, check out the H&K website for starters. The guy that runs HKPRO.com also has some info you'd probably be interested in. Here's the MK 23 complete with price (ouch) http://www.hk-usa.com/index.jsp?loc=101&SITEID=A&PartNumber=723001