thanks for your responses, thus far, AS I have said before, I have spent countless hours, time, and money trying to get the benelli to perform up to half, of the hype, shooting all kinds of shot and choke combos, only to come up disipointed. I know you are suposed to call the bird inside of 40 yds, and if you do, you should be ok with the benelli, but I keep hearing all the tv shows, and people who I come in con-tact with, talking about killing birds out beond 40 yds, all the way out to 70+ yds, PLEASE, with all the new hunters getting into the sport, there is going to be a lot of wounded birds out there. all of my testing, 35 yds or less, and you will be just fine, any thing over that, its get very, very, marginal. I have found that any-thing over 40 yds, and you start to have so many holes in the pattern, that all of the planets will have to line up just right, you get the picture. for all of the new hunters, please know your gun's limits.