They are not posting pic's of it because it look's like ****, surefire actually posted it on there site on new product's in the end of 2007, does that tell you anything?, and to top it off everybody selling them mysteriously don't have photo's plus Mesa Tactical who make's the baddest forend for the M4 who has been working on it for over two year's and is 75% done with RandD will not finish it. I don't get it what is the big deal with this shotgun, I guess we civilian's take the back burner on everything, freaken pisses me off.