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If true, in terms of home defence, that definately can be an issue

i bought mine new in September and it was delivered like this: They are delivered at a capacity of 7+1 but sold with a restrictor rod which limits it to 3+1 due to our Law requirements. However if you are using it for sport purposes (ex IPSC) you can remove the restrictor rod in less than 3" which gives you a capacity of 7+1 without Ghost Loading. Also the barell is slightly longer (I think its 52cm vs 50), to meet our barell law requirements.

140 Grams is not that much to be honest especialy for $180. My M4 accepts 7+1 out of the box, when you mean +2 rounds what is the total load capacity ?

Do you have weight differences between the stock tube and the titanium tube ?

I believe that the loadout has to do entirely with the purpose of the weapon. If the weapon is to be used in competition for example then the modifications would be totally different than if it were to be used for hunting, military or HD scenarios. For instance in a HD scenario you would probably want a flashlight which, for the M4, automatically means a hand guard with a rail. In any situation that you choose I believe you build the gun to your specs and then train constantly and consistently. In some cases that might mean lightning the weapon in other cases that my mean doing some pushups so you arms can easily handle the load. When I started training with my M4 my shoulder was soar and the weapon seemed heavy. Now I can go through a couple of hundred rounds with no problem and manipulate the weapon easily.

I can understand the weight issue BUT if you choose your parts carefully it should not add to the overall weight that much. To give you an example my setup only adds 1kg to the total weight. On the other hand in a HD/SD scenario i wouldnt expect to have to hold it to the extent that my hands can no longer support it. If i where to go hunting or have to track a long distance with it i would definately use a sling even if it was 1kg lighter than the original weight.

I really like the collapsable stock. Unfortunately its forbidden in my country since there is a minimum lenght restriction on shotguns. The AFG in the above pictures looks like Version 2 (Not Sure though) which is slimmer compared to V1 and is too slim for my hands. In general the AFG will provide you with an aggresive forward grip which allows better control over the weapon in terms of recoil and sway. Its pretty much the same MD theory from ARs implemented on Shotguns. For me it works great, others that have picked up my shotgun find it difficult to adapt to.

Nice Build! A couple of questions: 1) How long is the barrel ? How many rounds do you hold in that configuration ? 2) Is that a Larue Quick Disconnet for the T1 ? PS Have you experienced any lockouts with the black hawk holster ?

Dear Bello, Every shotgun, rifle or Gun should be built to a specific usage and purpose and should fit its owners needs. Aesthetically I can’t please everyone with what I have build, but it works for me so I don’t really mind. You are entitled to an opinion as everyone else (You know what they say about opinions) and that’s it. Your initial remark was noted but your second remark cannot go un answered. Hi jacking a thread to call someone else’s work a piece of **** does not add any value to the community and certainly does not add any value to my thread. I would at least expect that the Navy taught you some manners

I looked into all the other options and it is by far the best value for its money. It also gives a nice positive forward grip and lots of mounting options. The only draw back is that its not plug & play it needs modification with a dremel to fit the M4 correctly.

The T1 is small, compact, durable and i absolutely love it. My favorite red dot site. The sidearmor shell holder is well built however in conjuction with the fab defense rail it puts it quite forward, so people with shorter arms might not be able to easily access the ammo without breaking the stance. Great setup for ammo change over. Of course it mounts on any picatinny rail Thank you for the feedback

Though i drop in and share some pictures of my modified M4 Mods include: Mesa Tactical Urbino Stock Urbino Quick Disconnect Fab Defense front rail system GG&G Bolt Release GG&G Charging Handle SideArmor forward shell holder Velcro Shell Carriers Magpul AFG Magpul MS2 T1 Micro