XTrooper
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^What he said. I also bought my standard M4 stock via the Benelli Store and received excellent, prompt service.
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Honestly, I'd think of something else to get him.
The chances are slim to none he'll be able to use it and, realistically, it would provide little to no benefit over the standard 18" barrel, but it would lower the already inherently low ammo capacity of his M1014, as already mentioned by StrangerDanger.
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no, i keep it unloaded and its never been fired. the moment it gets fired somebody has to start bleaching my walls & floors. it's strictly home defense. thank you for the info.
You should NEVER trust your life with ANY weapon you haven't test-fired.
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Pondering hypotheticals and is a waste of time and will give you a brain tumor if you keep it up.
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That sucks about your car. I hope it gets sorted out soon. In any case, Happy Birthday and Many Happy Returns.
Huff64: Try imitating smart people and just ignore posts you're not interested in.
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Case, the reason I am inquiring about this way of loading is to make the weapon as safe as possible while still retaining a quick loading method.
It’s not a matter of “wearing out” the spring but when you have a spring compressed for long periods of time; most springs will take a “set”. That means with time the spring will not expand to its fullest length thereby lessening the power of the spring and possibly cause a misfire.
I have no problem with changing out the magazine spring every couple of years but I don’t want to have to take the trigger assembly apart to replace that spring.
And just for grins, I would like to know if this can be done. Thanks for your reply.
1. A firearm with an empty chamber can't be made any safer, short of disassembling it, and decocking it won't add or do anything except possibly allay someone's irrational fears. In other words, a weapon with an empty chamber is already "as safe as possible."
2. The spring steel used in the manufacture of firearms will take a set and shorten slightly within the first few days of being continually compressed. After that, it does not compress or shorten any farther no matter how many months, years, or decades it may stay compressed.
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Thanks a bunch for the help, truckcop. I'm going to start looking at the M1 recoil pad options available, including the Limbsaver, and go from there.
Thanks again!
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Thank you, gentlemen.
truckcop: Yes, that's exactly what I'm looking to do. I have the standard (non-pistol grip) stock on my M4 and would like to swap out the "hard as a rock" stock pad with something a little more shooter-friendly. That would be awesome if you could confirm, amigo. Gracias!
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Thanks, jsn124. I appreciate the info. What I'm looking for is an alternative, preferably softer replacement recoil pad for the factory one.
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Are there any available replacement recoil pads for the M4 or are any of the recoil pads for other models compatible with the M4 stock?
Thanks!
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Sorry if this has been answered or obvious. If we took a factory new 11707 and swapped the pistol grip stock with a standard fixed synthetic (non-pistol grip) Benelli stock would we still have to replace three other parts with US made parts?
No, you're not changing the total parts count with this swap. You are swapping out a 1-piece stock for another 1-piece stock so there is zero net change.
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Regarding the Briley unit, If I'm reading that correctly it's just something that slips over the stock mag tube so the rail attatchment can be fitted?
No, it looks to me like it replaces the factory "fake" extension, but it too is not a mag extension, just a filler tube for the rail attachment.
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Two things. That Briley unit is for the M4. If I remember correctly, the OP has a Super Nova. Also, it is not a +2 magazine extension as they explain in the description. http://www.briley.com/magazineextensionbarrelclamp-1.aspx
Nordic Components parts are high-quality. Factory or NC; they're both excellent.
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Stories like this reveal the truth regarding left-wing elitists. Like their Communist counterparts, they aren't anti-gun, they're anti-gun-in-the-hands-of-the-proletariat-and-peasant-classes which is how they view all of us.
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It's a shame you're not closer (I'm in NEPA). If you were, I would be happy to give you a good solid day (half classroom/half range work) of basic firearms safety, gun handling, and tactical training with your M4, all for under $200. Hopefully, you'll be able to find something more reasonable and closer to home.
See my post in this thread regarding slugs choices. http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php/31565-new-to-forum-and-shotguns-M4-ammo
FWIW, if you're planning on doing a lot of slug shooting, it would probably be worthwhile for you replace the modified choke tube that your M4 came with with a cylinder bore tube. In my experience, slugs are "usually" more accurate when fired through a barrel with no restriction (cylinder bore). I have a Trulock cylinder bore tube in my M4.
For basic recommendations for your shotgun including ammo choices and choke selection, check out the Benelli FAQ page. Info on choke selection is at the bottom of the page. http://www.benelliusa.com/support/faq.php
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While I (justifiably) hold a very poor opinion of the NRA due entirely to their HORRENDOUS track record in supporting all the monumentally bad legislation beginning in 1934, I DO strongly suggest making a generous donation to the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action. All money that is sent to the NRA-ILA goes strictly to political action and is not diluted throughout the entire NRA.
FWIW, the spirit of Neal Knox lives on in the NRA-ILA. God bless Neal Knox.
Two thumbs up for this post.
The NRA-ILA is going to need every penny they can raise to battle the tidal wave of anti-gun legislation that is going to hit us in the next few weeks and months on the Federal and State level.
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You can't determine whether the barrel is rifled or not?
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After doing some searching I am finding some current listings for an actual Benelli C-Stock and pistol grip, in the box from Benelli USA. Most of what I am seeing is listed around $550.
So there are actual Benelli made C-Stocks you can purchase instead of buying the ProMag stuff? What's the catch? I don't seem to see any listings for these anywhere but Gun Broker and eBay.
I am wondering if I should grab one, because I would rather have a factory part than one made after market, but I don't want to be a sucker if these are available for purchase directly from Benelli for a lower price.
They are only available directly from Benelli to law enforcement and the military. Since they aren't available to us directly, when you can find them, it's usually at a premium.
Keep in mind that if you install one on your M4, you will have to add 4 total 922® compliant parts since the collapsible stock is counted as two parts and adds one additional foreign made part to the gun.
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Most ranges don't allow the use of birdshot (it's very tough on target stands and backers), but if yours does and your M4 will cycle it, that's the cheapest way to go. If not, buy the cheapest buckshot and/or slugs you can find. Forget steel, there's nothing cheap about it and no reason to shoot it in your M4.
Yes, some use #4 buckshot for home defense. Others prefer #1 or 0 buckshot. I use 00 buckshot because that's what I'm most familiar and comfortable with and I'm more likely to get all 8 or 9 pellets on target with it. Most any buckshot load will get the job done and I wouldn't say one size is necessarily "better" than another.
Hopefully it will only take your shotgun 100 rounds before it starts cycling the cheap birdshot. My M4 wouldn't cycle it till around the 300 shell mark. Lucky me!
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Welcome aboard, Ghost.
My advice......don't believe everything you read on the Internet.
922® is most certainly still in force. Here's a good FAQ page on how it applies to the M4 and some of the things you can do to modify your M4 while still satisfying its requirements.
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That's my impression.
They should include an uber drill bit with the kit.
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Before placing an order for it I called THE SOURCE and talked to a woman at Mesa Tactical who advised me that I would need to DRILL OUT that hole in the PG to enlarge it - NO mention of a roll pin. (Yeah, I see that NOW on their website they make mention of a 'split pin'.) So what do I do? I (carefully) follow the directions I got from Mesa Tactical, breaking a couple of drill bits in the process (I was thinking to myself at the time, "Self, this is being much more difficult than it should be.") - it's one very tough roll pin, Benelli did not cut corners on this roll pin. I finally extract the remnants of the roll pin and then have to be concerned with getting the block within the PG which retains the trigger group properly aligned so that everything comes back together as it should. I was NOT at all pleased with the outcome, although it works now, just not as well as it did before I took a drill to it.
Dang! That's an ugly tale! They must have used hardened tool steel for the pin.
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Yeah, Mesa Tactical fails to inform ya that there's a EFFING ROLL PIN THAT YOU HAVE TO DRILL OUT* in that location to install that attachment point. Ask me how I know.
*or driven out HAD I KNOW OR BEEN INFORMED that there's a EFFING ROLL PIN there
LOL Well, for what it's worth, they do make mention of it now.
Was it a tough job or were you just not interested in drilling the pin out?
New M4 and break in.
in Benelli
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The number varies from one gun to the other, but the general consensus is that it takes "several" hundred shells. You can minimize the number by shooting magnum shells. In the case of my M4, it wasn't till around the 300 round count that it began to reliably fire light loads.
I don't think sending it back to Benelli is a good idea since they don't warrant the M4 to shoot target loads in the first place. Most Benelli shotguns will, in time, shoot all but the lightest target loads, but Benelli doesn't guarantee this.
Here's a statement from the Benelli web site:
Minimum Recommended Load: Use 3-dram, 1-1/8-oz. loads in all Benelli 12-ga. semi-auto shotguns