dport

Bump, to see if there is an update.

Nice. I don't use a safety. Being a lefty it isn't convient. I just keep the gun in Cond III until ready to use.

M4Madness, They didn't get the letter.

Daily bump.

It's a weekday, so I guess I'll bump. I'm tempted to sell the Benelli to buy a Saiga-12. There are US parts kits out there, so you can have a naughty version. And there are 8 round mags out there to be had. It's soooo tempting.

Daily bump.

Benelli has stated publically that buying the LE version of the M4 and putting the telestock on was legal. Well maybe they didn't say it was legal, but they did tell us how to get a telestock and what versions of the M4 it would work on. A member here wrote the ATF for confirmation. The ATF said it was illegal. Benelli could have dropped it there, but they asked for a faxed copy of the letter. The member faxed the copy. And we are here because Benelli hasn't gotten back to us. This affects them as much as it does us because it determines which versions of the M4 can be imported. The least they can do is tell us what is legal for them to import and in what configurations, so we can cover our butts. They are the ones who implied it was legal to add the telestock.

Bumped to get attention to this.

Benelli? Any word yet?

Benelli, it is a new week. What's the word?

Benelli has M4's letter, so what is the reaction BenelliUSA?

M4, Has Benelli figured this out yet?

dport, you almost sound like you WANT this to happen. That is rank speculation on your part , unless you know something we don't. What "already prohibited shotgun"??? The statute says "identical". Not "substantially similar" or "functionally equivalent." Am I being overly optimistic here, or are you being overly pessimistic? I cannot find a single piece of information that would suggest that the M4/M1014 has ever been characterized as non-sporting, But, even if ATF were to make such a ridiculous determination tomorrow, it would not predate either the importation or modification of MY GUN. And I feel good about that... Moral of the story: Buy now and modify as quickly as possible, especially before Kerry wins. No I don't want it to happen. I'm being realistic here. There is a ton of wishful thinking going on here and on ARF.com. Let's face it, if the .gov wants to rule a configuration as non-sporting they will. The Congress WE elected gave them the power. BTW, it won't matter when you had your configuration set up, the law was passed in 1990. That's the date they'll go by. Here's my take, the M4 with telestock and extended mag is going to be considered the same functionally identical as the M3 with extended mag and folding stock. The M3 was prohibited from importation, so the M4 will be too. Unless Benelli's legal department pulls a rabbit out of their hat. So far I'm impressed with their responsiveness. They immediately asked for the letter from the ATF, so it looks like the wheels are turning. My guess is their argument is going to be the extended mag, the telestock and the sight rail are all suitable for sporting use. We'll see if .gov buys that. I noticed the M1 practical is getting a lot of play here with the extended magazine. Here's my take, it's OK because of the stock on it. The M4 won't be OK because of the pistol grip stock.

I think what is going to happen is an M4 with a telestock or an extended magazine is going to be identical in configuration to an already prohibited shotgun and denied thusly.

If it was legal wouldn't Benelli be importing the USMC version already? 5Shot, You can play word games with it all you want, but .gov has a **** of a lot more resources than you to throw into any legal proceeding.