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Best recommendation is go buy a Browning BAR with the factory installed muzzle brake.

Benelli is coming out with a new 20 round clip for the R-1. The advantage is that it will hold an entire box of 20 rounds of ammo. It's very convenient all you will have to do slide the box right in the bottom of the clip and your ready to go hunting!

06-22-2006, 11:47 PM tucker301 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,505 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I guess I should check my auctions more often! The gunbroker listing has met the reserve with a little over a day left, so it's on the way out... hopefully. How much did you sell your R-1 for?

I didn't realize that you you posted the first GunsAmerica thread on this site. I was wondering why you were getting so involved in this particular thread...now we know! 05-22-2006, 07:54 PM tucker301 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,505 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got my R1 listed on gunbroker and gunsamerica. So, I've received a few genuine e-mails of interest, but I've also received several obvious bogus attempts to scam me out of my somewhat hard-earned cash.

I'm the wrong person to try and persuade about gun legislation. I believe that has already been covered in the United States constitution." The right to own and bear arms". So please save that arguement for the "lily livers" politicians in Washington D.C. and individual state governments. I would like to hear more about your R-1 with the muzzle break (do you still have it?) tucker301 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,504 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's what the funds from the sale of my R1 brought me yesterday. It weighs about twice what the R1 weighed, but I don't do a lot of long-range walking anyway, so that's no biggie. Mostly, I just wanted a more accurate and more durable semi-auto deer rifle. Nothing wrong with the R1. It just wasn't for me.

Tucker301 Go to the http://www.gunsamerica.com site "click" rifles and scroll down to Benelli to see all 20. There was onlt (2) shotguns on that page My R-1 did shoot pretty well when I first bought it but that didn't last very long. It eventually got so bad that it would not shoot a consistant 8" group. With a freshly cleaned barrel it would shoot tighter groups for about 8-10 rounds.I believe it possibly developed a hamonics problem in the barrel. That's why I sent it back to BenelliUSA for them to check it out for me. When I initially contacted customer service about the problem they told me to send it in and they would look in to the problem and see if they could straighten out. Keryn (customer service rep) told me not to clean the barrel so they could duplicate the same conditions that I was having problems. Upon arrival at their location Chester the gunsmith that worked on my gun said he found powder residue and copper foulings in the barrel to which he attributed the problem. This tells me he didn't read my letter as requested by Keryn. He shot three rounds at 100 yds with a 2 1/2" group and said it met Benelli specifications. It just didn't make since to me to try and sight-in the gun and shot a three shot group to make sure it was sighted properly. How would you do that? Shot (1) shot and clean the barrel and repeat over and over again. Very time consuming process. As I remember you had a muzzle break installed on your R-1 didn't you? I considered doing that also and cutting off 2" off the barrel to see if I could get it to stablize. I basically tried everything I could think of "save my investment" but there were to many possiblities for the problems I was experiencing. I had (2) friends that I hunt with that both have enginering degrees, one from University of Florida and the other from Penn State University they thought it could have been a pressure issue with the gas port and cylinder or barrel harmonics. I am not a rich man and do not like taking an $800.00 loss but at some point I had to just say ENOUGH. I had spent more than $300.00 in just ammo chasing the targets. I even went as far as to buy a second leupold scope VX11 to put on the gun to eliminate that possiblty too. (another $338.00) My refering to your AR as an assult rifle was due to the large volume magazine clip featured in you picture you posted. What does it hold like 20 rounds? Most other hunting rifles only hold (5) that's why I called it an assult rifle.

Tucker301 I just counted 20 Benelli R-1 rifles on the http://www.GunsAmerica.com website and they had all 5 calibers available including comfortech models. They actually had rifle/scope packages for around $1,000.00 I was very surprised to still see you hanging out on the site. I remember you were in the process of getting rid of your R-1 and considering a Browning BAR. I saw pics of your new assult rifle in another thread. Does it shoot any better than your old R-1 did? I bet you built some muscles up this season carring an 11 pounder in the field

Anyone considering buying a new Benelli R-1 rifle should check-out the large selection and great deals on used Benelli R-1's on http://www.gunsamerica.com site. They have them in every caliber and the site is over-flowing with used R-1 rifles. I recently sold my own rifle for only $400.00. I couldn't find anyone interested in buying it so I gave it away and took a huge loss...OUCH! It was less than 2 years old and looked brand new and didn't have a scratch on it. I just never could get it to shoot consistantly. It seemed to shoot differently every time I took it out of the case. I finally got tired of fooling with the blasted thing. ( Besides I was going broke buying ammo for it too) I shot about 12-14 boxes of ammo through it and also sent it back to BenelliUSA for service to no avail. They never could find the problem or correction for it. I asked them to please replace the gun but they said it was within the Benelli factory tolerance of shooting 2 1/2" groups at 100 yards. I never saw that in the advertisements "performance work the price" and probably shouldn't have bought the gun in the first place if that is all the R-1 rifle is capable of. (I have seen auto loading slug guns that would do that). Anyway I didn't want it on my conscience to sell a rifle that performed so poorly to an unsuspecting buyer. I just didn't think that would be right. I let 4-5 of my hunting buddies shoot the gun to see if they were interested in buying it at a very good price but they were all afraid that they might wound an animal with a bad shot or miss a trophy opportunity associated with its poor accuracy and passed on it. I also know of a local authorized benelli dealer selling brand new R-1 rifles clearance priced at $980.00 still in the box just to get them out of there inventory. They said they have had negative feed back from other owners that were dis-satisfied like I was so they won't carry them anymore after these are gone. I guess unfortunatley the R-1 doesn't have the reputation or accuracy associated with other semi-auto rifles such as Browning and Remington. One good thing that did come out of my experience was that I now shoot my bolt action rifle much better accuracy wise. I attribute this to building up the strength in my trigger finger after shooting the R-1. Anyone interested in contact info for these new guns is welcome to leave a request on the forum and I will reply.

I am very familar with the R-1 rifle as I already own one and am very pleased with it. I am getting ready to by an automatic shotgun and have been wondering what the main difference is between the SBEII and the M-2 field gun. I plan on using the shotgun for turkey hunting and also close quaters whitetail deer hunting. I see that both guns offer slug barrels as well as the comp choke tubes. I see the benelli web site shows both guns but not much on details or comparisons. Are they both drilled and taped for scopes.Do they both have the same action? Are the stocks different? Looking at the specifications I see a huge difference in price. I've seen Tom Knapp on TV shooting an M-2 field gun so I take it that it is a high quality shotgun. Can anyone point out the main differences? Any feed back on advantages,features and beneifits of both shotguns?

I am personally very satisfied with my R-1 in chambered in .308 win. i guess If I had it to do all over again (deciding which rifle to pick) I'd still buy the benelli R-1 over the new Browning BAR. My father has bought and traded several hundred rifles over the last 45 years. He has had a gun cabinet full of Browning BAR's and says he never had one worth keeping around and never found one that performed up to his expectations. Up until I bought my R-1 last July or August he was strictly a bolt action die-hard. We played with my rifle at the range a few times and he eventually purchased a Remington 7400 in .270 caliber at a huge discount from walmart for only $325.00. He is an excellent kitchen table gunsmith and did some trigger work on his Remington. (a big plus in the Remington corner) since the Benelli's main complaint is the stiff trigger. My rifle's trigger tested out at about 7 1/2 pounds of pull when we tested it. I would recommend that you check the Browning trigger and see how many pound pull it is set at from the factory and also does it allow for any adjustment? While my R-1's trigger has a heavier pull than my Dads Remington 7400 my Benelli is much smoother and crisper feeling.Unfortunatly the Benelli does not have any real adjustability because of the chromed mating surface.We both shoot about 1" groups at 100 yards. The Benelli will have a better resale value if you are not satisfied...BAR's are a dime a dozen and you see many used Brownings on gun shop racks and in the news paper.

Our you may need to change ammo...try 150 gr. loads for best results

Now We Know... I recently shot my rifle using 165 gr. Federal "High Energy" bear claw bonded ammo with no problems. My rifle performed flawlessly with no problems what so ever. I wasn't very impressed with the group as far trying to zero in my scope but that was not my intention. I was mainly wanting to see if the gun would shot High energy without damage and cycle properly.

Bozhed Try shooting the 150 gr. bullets. My gun loves the Remington 150 gr. pointed soft points. To address the forearm stock loosening I put a rubber 57 cent rubber "O" ring on the receiving end of the of the forearm threads and it works great. Check out Tucker301's thread on the subject. They are great rifles but you will need to make a minor alteration to make it a "great" gun.

Chronos My R-1 shoots groups as good or better than the picture posted above by tucker301. I've never had a cycling problem since day one. I can tell you that you better lock the barrel cap down tight for any kind of consistant P.O.I. groups. I am wondering how many of the R-1 owners that are experiencing problems with their guns went through the "Recommended" break-in procedure...at the gun range? Not a very good place to take your gun apart 5 or 10 times in one session. I was at the gun shop today and saw and actually held the "new" Browning BAR. I wasn't impressed by the way it felt in my hands at all. The pistol grip felt very thick and the forearm grip was very wide and bulky (not a smooth handy feeling gun) compared to the sleek design of the Benelli R-1. My friend at the gun shop said that (Browning) had to make changes to the BAR due Benelli's R-1 taking market share. He also said he would choose the R-1 over the Bar from a quality stand point. Good Luck Tucker301 P.S. Does the "new" BAR shot High energy ammo?

I have a Leupold European 30 3x9 40mm scope on my R-1. I used the piccatinny rail that came with the gun and burris standard rings. I have shot probably140-160 rounds without and movement or other problems related to scoping.