I'm with Nolaboy1. Last week I bought a SBE II and haven't been very happy with it so far. I can't get it to pattern consistantly with Black Cloud or with Hevi-Steel and it is shooting higher than point of aim (and yes, that is with my line of sight flat on the rib). Plus compared to my gas operated Browning with a limbsaver I believe the recoil is twice as hard. And to top it off the buttpad will fall out if you hit it the least bit. In my opinion and only MY opinion this gun is way over priced and over rated. I may change my mind when I get a chance to shoot some lead.