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Texan, I got some nice groups out of Federal TruBall slugs. I would advise trying a box or two. I think you will be happy with the stock set up.

This thread reads great. Tbone got me to laugh out loud. FWIW, for 250 bucks more, I will put EOM on my gun. BUT, everyone is entitled to thier opinion.

IDGAF. Question answered.

+1 on combat time (mossberg) Negative on the rest. Maybe I can make the grade on the home shooting if I invite some select forum members over for dinner.

Duggan, that is your que for one a those "snazzy" picture depicting some ********.

I think Benelli has that policy becuase of the possibility of using cast alloy slugs like a Dixie slug. I would not want to shoot a Dixie slug out of a full choke. With foster type slugs, no problem, but all slugs are not created equal.

Just FYI in case I agree with your comments, you will avoid shortstroking by using a semi. (I am a little hung over) I just thought the point of reliability was being discussed in relation to why we love the M4. I love it becuase it is a bad ass shotgun that is fun to shoot.

I agree folks can short stroke, but as a tool, a pump is more reliable. People that shortstroke either need more training, or don't have the disposition for the job. When I referenced the most important factors during a high stress situation, training and "testicular fortitude" rank at the top. Additionally, I would bet that most HD shootings (as well as law enforcement shooting) are single shot events. Go into you garage and close the doors and blast off a round. Then try to aim for a follow up shot. I think you will not be thinking straight if it is the first time you experience it. I mean we can all admit a pump is more reliable then an auto mechanically, I think you guys are refering to the human reliability. That can only be remedied by training. Both physical and mental. You can have a bunch of I'll trained greenies running around with super shotguns that will either be killed, or even kill each other becuase of poor training. No flame, just the basic rules. Be well. I think this type of talk is helpful.

I ain't denying it

Duggan, I have been on severalbdifferent continents and put down many a "badguy". But the only thing I ever short stroked is in my pants. Spend a couple a years training to kill people, and "short stroking" won't be a problem.

Unob and H&K, Thanks for being cool! I am just getting back from seeing my service buddys! Yeah, we were young, mean as ****, and damn deadly! Semper fi MF!

H&K - you are a vagina. Are you 6 years old just fresh off your mamas tit? Now, that doesn't sound nice.

BTW Unob, I am just poking fun to give some perspective. You will be the same way in 10-20 years.

Geneleo & Darkjedi, +1 one your comments. As far as why own a benelli? Because I can afford to nowadays. (after 10 years in service and a few more in security). It is a great all round shotgun and stretches the limits of a tactical shotgun. Unob, if you are so pickled ass about reiability, get a moss pump gun. Nothing is more reliable than a pump. A pump gun is more reliable then a auto. ( nothing against autos, I love my M4) And as a general statement, the benelli M4 outperforms most of it's owners. In all my time using a pump as a weapon, I never emptied the mag (eg emptied out themat so fast I did not have time to reload) or needed the speed of an auto. HD and tactical situations are lightning fast and dynamic. If I had to rate all the elements involved in one of the situations mentioned above, the aspect of having semi auto ranks at bottom. That is being told by EXPERIENCE, not Internet opinions, which we all know are like ********. (everyone has one) 23? I thought you were 16 and just oiling your daddy's " boomstick"

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